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Loyalty works both ways 10:39 - Aug 24 with 687 views

Lot’s of negative comments on here regarding
KM MA and a host of players
You can understand why there is very little loyalty in football these days

You can go from hero to villain very quickly

One minute it’s Judas because they want to leave or the next minute when the team is not performing it’s time to get rid of them, based on just a few games.

I stand by the fact that we have a great young manager and a team when it clicks into place will be worthy of promotion.

Let us see how things stand at the end of October.

I think the vast majority of fans with long memories know we have a great opportunity of league success this season unlike the times under ME

[Post edited 24 Aug 10:43]

Loyalty works both ways on 10:43 - Aug 24 with 622 views

Marshalls_Mullet

Not sure what motivated this?

I think we have a very patient fan base.

The success of the 23/24 season has rightly protected KM and MA from too much criticism for the failure of the 24/25 season.

However, this season we start a fresh, with no excuses.

I think we will pick up, and have a good season. But I am not enjoying hearing the new team / gelling narrative again.

[Post edited 24 Aug 10:43]

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Would Lambert have acheived better results than Cook if given the same resources

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Loyalty works both ways on 10:57 - Aug 24 with 519 views

jasondozzell

Excellent post and spot on!!!

Loyalty works both ways on 11:02 - Aug 24 with 458 views

Vaughan8

Loyalty works both ways on 10:43 - Aug 24 by Marshalls_Mullet

[Post edited 24 Aug 10:43]

I would not hang on every word a manager says in public.

Partly, he's right. In key areas like central midfield, it's new partnerships.

However he can't be happy with the lack of real chances and theforward players were all players who were here last year.

I'm guessing that's just the thing to say but McKenna cant be overly happy at the moment, not that he's going to slate the players in public.

Loyalty works both ways on 11:06 - Aug 24 with 415 views

Marshalls_Mullet

Loyalty works both ways on 11:02 - Aug 24 by Vaughan8

When Cajuste is back, that excuse about CM is gone.

Every team in the league will be integrating new players, and most wont have had the luxury of our humungous budget.

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Would Lambert have acheived better results than Cook if given the same resources

Loyalty works both ways on 11:06 - Aug 24 with 412 views

pointofblue

Loyalty works both ways on 10:43 - Aug 24 by Marshalls_Mullet

[Post edited 24 Aug 10:43]

It's so Cook like. And the excuse kept him into a job until it was too late for anyone to pull it around and get us into the play offs.

(NOT saying McKenna should be sacked. But blind loyalty should not be a thing either. Sometimes change is simply needed for the sake of all parties - look at Edwards with Luton/Boro).

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Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

Loyalty works both ways on 11:07 - Aug 24 with 405 views

AbujaBlue

Loyalty works both ways on 11:02 - Aug 24 by Vaughan8

I think the vast majority of fans are even-minded and remember where we were 2-3 years ago in relation to now.

Unfortunately, being an online message board, we'll also see a considerable amount of short-sightedness and dirge, bit this is not a reflection of the wider fanbase.

[Post edited 24 Aug 11:27]

Loyalty works both ways on 11:13 - Aug 24 with 340 views

Vaughan8

Loyalty works both ways on 11:07 - Aug 24 by AbujaBlue
I think the vast majority of fans are even-minded and remember where we were 2-3 years ago in relation to now. Unfortunately, being an online message board, we'll also see a considerable amount of short-sightedness and dirge, bit this is not a reflection of the wider fanbase. [Post edited 24 Aug 11:27]

I would be concerned if we were being outplayed by Preston. That would be worrying.

It seems like they had literally the penalty and nothing else. Just one of those games.

These expensive midfielders need to start weighing in with some goals.

Loyalty works both ways on 11:19 - Aug 24 with 290 views

ArchiRob

Loyalty works both ways on 11:13 - Aug 24 by Vaughan8
I would be concerned if we were being outplayed by Preston. That would be worrying. It seems like they had literally the penalty and nothing else. Just one of those games. These expensive midfielders need to start weighing in with some goals.

Mmm - I recall we were under some threat from several crosses until they scored and then they sat back and invited us on

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Loyalty works both ways on 11:20 - Aug 24 with 272 views

pointofblue

Loyalty works both ways on 11:19 - Aug 24 by ArchiRob
Mmm - I recall we were under some threat from several crosses until they scored and then they sat back and invited us on [Post edited 24 Aug 11:20]

This. The game would have panned out differently had they not scored. Admittedly, it may have eventually been in our favour but, to start with until the penalty, Preston were on the front foot.

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Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

Loyalty works both ways on 11:28 - Aug 24 with 223 views

darkhorse28

Agree with everything you say.

You do know KM has been allowed to speak to any club he likes, unlike his own players, almost left for Palace and actually agreed provisional terms with Brighton?

You talk as if none of that actually happened.

The players know. That’s why the hypocrisy and really poor way he handles Hutch probably won’t sit well within the group.

It’s hypocrisy, and that’s a 21 year old boy…, McKenna used the media hype to leverage a salary that even Brighton couldn’t match.

Very cynical, and not dripping with loyalty or the clubs long term interests.

I’m not sure he’s been especially loyal at all.., if we hadn’t flown the owners in, to approve a salary at champions league levels, and a £150 million spend, I’d be 99% certain he’d be at Brighton.

It’s the modern way.

But when you stop players talking to clubs a league higher and in Europe, to look after their careers, it looks really really poor man management, the trust and respect can leave the building very quickly.

So, no. He hasn’t shown loyalty.

And nobody wanted him this summer - because they can’t afford him, and he was v poor last season.

Again.., that’s not loyalty.., he wasn’t even offered an interview at Brentford.

Ashton messed up big time.., and it was obvious at the time.., even if as described, you don’t spend generational money on some with zero games management at that level.., it’s a huge risk.

Brentford have Andrews, but I guarantee they won’t pay him champions league money, and given him £150 million to spend.

If it doesn’t work…, they can pivot from strength and go again, and go big.

We just had to sell £90 million worth of players.

We spent money at levels, to see if someone with zero experience (at that level as a manager) was good enough.

We’ll spend a long time recovering from those decisions, and there’s a HUGE amount of change coming as a consequence.

That’s ALL on Ashton and his guarenteed to the owners.

Loyalty works both ways on 11:33 - Aug 24 with 195 views

stonojnr

Loyalty works both ways on 11:20 - Aug 24 by pointofblue
This. The game would have panned out differently had they not scored. Admittedly, it may have eventually been in our favour but, to start with until the penalty, Preston were on the front foot.

you mean they played like a home team, at home, with a win already under their belts, wow with searing football punditry analysis like that youll be a shoe in on MOTD if Rooney is ill one week

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