| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play 22:02 - Jul 6 with 841 views | Dubtractor |
I sometimes wonder how a hypothetical game would play out between this sort of football, and your really basic lump it forward and kick em game the likes of Dave Basset and Bobby Gould used to play.
Over 2 legs, one on a modern pitch, and one on a bobbly and muddy 80s pitch. Referees from those time periods too.
Which would come out on top? [Post edited 6 Jul 22:03]
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| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 22:10 - Jul 6 with 759 views | homer_123 |
Football is cyclical.
We are already seeing elements of that type of play come back to the fold. Long throws, more emphasis on set pieces.
We saw Delap, a bit of a throw back striker, put it about. Currently most defenders are technically excellent but are so used to defending in front of them - that I have no doubt that we'll see more teams become much more direct. Look to play off a striker (flick ons etc.).
Even at this WC, we are seeing wingers go on the outside more and put crosses in.
As to your question - if it's current rules and ref'ing then the ball playing teams win - no way that level of thuggery and butchery back in the day would be allowed. Go back in time and I think it would be more even over two legs. |  |
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| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 22:16 - Jul 6 with 728 views | MattinLondon |
A modern day tippy tappy team would easily beat a long ball team from the 80s. Modern players are quicker, stronger and much more tactically intelligent than 80s players. They’ll easily adapt and mix it up. |  | | |
| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 22:21 - Jul 6 with 709 views | Dubtractor |
I think a game on modern pitches with modern rules/refs would be an absolute walkover for the tippy tappyists, but on 80s pitch with a more physical approach allowed I think the hoofers would win. Modern teams know that they can dribble and pass in tight spaces because no one really tries to tackle anymore, it's about not committing and leaving space to play in, so everyone just tracks play without sticking their foot in most of the time. | |
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| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 00:06 - Jul 7 with 570 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 22:10 - Jul 6 by homer_123 |
Football is cyclical.
We are already seeing elements of that type of play come back to the fold. Long throws, more emphasis on set pieces.
We saw Delap, a bit of a throw back striker, put it about. Currently most defenders are technically excellent but are so used to defending in front of them - that I have no doubt that we'll see more teams become much more direct. Look to play off a striker (flick ons etc.).
Even at this WC, we are seeing wingers go on the outside more and put crosses in.
As to your question - if it's current rules and ref'ing then the ball playing teams win - no way that level of thuggery and butchery back in the day would be allowed. Go back in time and I think it would be more even over two legs. |
England started against Mexico with a 1950's style, 5 man forward line, and played extremely direct football. It was a tactical masterstroke by Tuchel, took the Mexicans completely by surprise and rattled them.
I am not saying that we didn't also play some very good football at times, too, but we genuinely started with kick and rush tactics.
Even in the Second Half we used it to an extent, moving Kane from his more typical floating role to a pure "Big Lad Up Top" role after we went down to 10 men. The penalty was "Lump it up to the big lad who flicks it on for the nippy beggar to run onto" and Gordon did the rest. |  | | |
| This extreme tippy tap and dribble game that Spain and Portugal play on 00:22 - Jul 7 with 545 views | armchaircritic59 |
Interesting concept. For me, class usually wins out in the end, but not of course always, otherwise there'd often be no point in many football matches! I've always been a fan of possession based football, but not the everlasting sideways, backwards, side to side stuff at the pace of a snail, more progressively based. Spain can certainly do it but they can also be dragged into the as you call it, tippy tappy type of game. I think overall they'd just be too good for the " up and at 'em " school, but it might be closer than some think under the circumstances you've mentioned. I think I'd just give up watching football if all there was, was the lump it up in the general direction of the big guy up top, school of thought. It doesn't take much thinking! |  | | |
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