Sorry hit have to love how many on herd claim to think they know what they release clause is. Fact is, no1 knows, maybe we never will. Same with these reporters of various papers and websites. Which is why different ones are claiming different amounts. Totally futile to speculate.

Grinch. Really? Very few, if any of those players you've mentioned will be leaving. So why say they are.

81legends. How is it shortsighted to have signed Delap on this kind of deal. If we hadn't agreed to a release clause, however much it actually is, it actually is, I very much doubt he'd have signed for us. However much we get for him, is gonna be at least 100% profit. Pretty good for just 1 season.

Bluewhiteboy. While technically you are right, the fact is, that if a club really want him that badly, they may well outbid another club in order to try to get him, so could become a bidding war. Which would benefit us of course.

Rootshall91. You might want to check your math there….

If true, disappointing.

The only way you would get more than £30M less sell on, is if a club were desperate enough to sign him before Ipswich are officially relegated. This would give them a chance to agree terms before other clubs and the clause is not active, so we wouldn't be forced to accept £30.

That being said, it would make a lot of sense for Liam to reject that and wait, as he will get far better offers.

Shame we cant agree to loan him to anyone he wants in the prem for free, for a season and hope we get back.

As for the deal. Assuming we have paid £15M, sell for £30m and Pau city £6M. ..... £9M profit looks good a year a go, less good now. :-(

I hope the data team have been sacked by now, grinch.

If the release clause is £30m then that's the amount clubs will offer to sign him. The bidding war comes with his personal terms, so all in the player's interests not ours.

I’m totally done with Ashton. Awful summer, awful January, champions league contract to KM, and now this. We get £30 million, and he’s guaranteed to leave because a) the other £130 million we spent clearly isn’t good enough, and aren’t sellable assets and b) no club will bid more, when they can use that money to pay Delap a big signing on fee and wages.., he’s going to be incredibly well off from our failure to protect our club. When you factor PSR, and losing a league one season and replacing it with a season where we spent more than anyone in Europe (almost) we are in serious trouble.., expect we’ll now need another circa £20 million in profit to have any hope of meeting governance. It’s SO poor, like we were playing at the casino.., who do we have that anyone will buy, in 45 years as a supporter we’ve never been this bad off the pitch in one year. We have 27 inside forwards (none at this level) and a central midfield of a 34 and 35 year old plus Jack.., the owners have been absolutely world class, but they must be furious. They should be.., this is Ashtons second massive failure at this level, this time he wasted a generational opportunity. £30 million for a £60 million asset, it’s gross negligence (if true).

@warfarinman .., I love that optimism. But sadly, firstly WE need him to go. Even £15 million profit, will be essential under PSR. We don’t have many sellable assets, if any, they’ve been so poor, so we will 100% need 10’s of millions to have any chance on governance.

Secondly. What’s he actually worth. £50 or £60 million. So you can spend £30 million, and easily give him a contract worth £15 million plus, and still have a great deal on the balance sheet, it’s such an easy deal for big clubs to do…, he’s not going to turn down a big club, on the sort of package this means clubs can put together, to stay in the championship .., and he shouldn’t either, he’s earned the opportunity.

It’s gross negligence in our part, just like the KM champions league contract, he’ll be rather signing a new contract on reduced terms or leaving too, we made a real mess of our business this last 12 months, financially, we’ve never done worse than this.., it’s so naive, so unprofessional.

He’ll get a £5 million signing on fee, and triple his wages, because that’s his actual value.., what a shame we didn’t see that value when we signed him, who signs a player so young, in this market, and has such a poor sell on .., the owners should and I expect will be furious.., we’ve spend £130 million, wasted most of it, and the bit we spent brilliantly well, we didn’t protect the asset. I don’t see how Ashton survives if this is even close to true.

@bazza8564 I so wish that was true. We can’t refuse an offer of £30 million. So nobody will bid more , there wouldn’t be any point.

Somone could bid £100 million, but we have to accept £30 million so it’s only about who offers him and his agent the best terms now, and obviously at £30 million, that will be a huge package because it’s still great value. Obviously where he wants to play will be a factor too. We’ve made it impossible to get market value or even close.., Delap and his agents have played a blinder.., Ashton.., less so! .., can’t believe he wouldn’t have agreed to 40-50 million, especially when players have all the power anyway if they want to leave. Its like we bought a very young player who’s full
potential Ashton didn’t either understand or believe in.., poor. Actually, negligent.

The bigger worry is we’ll still be well behind PSR and I don’t think we have many players we can sell, so we’re struggling big time.., this has vibes of selling Bent, Holland, Herman etc for way below market value.., we spent 22 years recovering from that.

30m starting figure is good

I have no proof , of what anyone has said .this is just my thought , has anyone thought as to what Delap has said , maybe he wants Town to come back straight back up with his help , he's young and has a long career ahead of him, just thought !!
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None of us are right or wrong as there are so many different possible clauses, the one that I don't think anyone of us considered is its possible there is a time clause, I don't think as favourites for relegation that any new signings will have avrelegation clause because that was more likely than not, and while there might be a release clause this could be after 2 seasons if we didn't come straight back up but if a top club came in Town could sell him to anyone within that time frame. That would make alot of sense as Knk and Ashton obviously bought players with Championship and youth and prospect in mind.
So he may still go but if a time clause is in it will be at an offer the club accepts but if he stays and we don't return he has a release clause set at 40 Mill and at that time Man City will have the first option to do that.
Starts to make a bit more sense. So really Town could loan him for a season to Prem and the club pays wages with the obligation to buy the player if Town aren't promoted.
It makes sense if he's is committed to 2 seasons as a return to the Prem isvworth way more than 40 mill, that could be why Rutter couldn't move straight away.
This would be great work by Ashton as his stock could rise further at Euros and Town hold the cards to stick or twist but they do not have to sell and Delap can't just leave. Makes sense for everyone.

Here is link on rules if anyone wants a read it's a minefield, I was wrong, I thought a release would start a bidding war but no if its 40 mill the first club to pay it Town must accept it but the player does not have to join, and any club then on can talk to the player and buy for the same amount.
But clubs don't like release clause because of tax etc it says so the buying club give the money to buy out his contract which is a figure pre agreed and with Ipswich, the player pays the PremierLeague and they make him a free agent, which I'm guessing that's where "Undiclosed fee' comes from.

All very interesting, so Delap may well be here until Jan, first and foremost he is an Ipswich Town player and assets.

https://www.givemesport.com/football-release-clauses-explained-how-they-work/

My understanding is that the club cannot get anything more than £30 million less the sell-on percentage to Manchester City. A club only needs to put £30 million on the table and if Delap is happy to join that club then ITFC has no choice but to release him.

20:20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Needs to have a word with Phillips, grass not always greener or better for development. Been a couple of stories on here in recent weeks of young players moving on, only to end up going backwards.

Another thought is we have never been great at selling players, normally leaving for well below their value and never really done well with spending vast amounts of money!

On another note, not enough of the new signings have really shone through, lots of tough questions will be asked. I can’t think of another signing other than Delap who could make a profit, let alone getting our investment back! O’Shea and Townsend were good signings so far, didn’t see enough of ogbenie and Smodizcs but not too many success’s in there!

Let’s not forget Southampton were in for Delap, so we’d have had to match whatever terms they offered. So all you smartarses saying Ashton is culpable here - would you rather we hadn’t signed him on whatever terms it took to convince City to sell and Delap to join?
Let’s also not forget where we were when Mark Ashton arrived at this football club. Anyone who says “they’re done with him” needs to give their head a wobble.

Whatever the actual clause is, all we know is that to us it will be an "undisclosed fee" and we will never actually know.

Anyone think that Delap will still stay?

Alphawhiskey staying wouldn’t hamper his career progression however the wrong move could. I dont think that thought process will be applied and unfortunately he will move! Let’s hope it works out well for everyone!

His agent and others will be saying he has to keep playing in the Premier League, not only to secure his future financially but enhance his England chances. What good is it for him to drop down a division to maintain an upward trajectory, however much we may believe there's some sentiment involved?

Given two choices:

1 - sign and enjoy Delap this season and accept a £30m release clause; or,
2 - not include it, watch someone else include it and sign him, and he bangs in 12 goals for someone else this year...

Which would you have preferred? If we let the deal slip based on not including this, we'd all be moaning saying "we needed a forward, should have included it, could have had a great young striker who might have kept us up, and c£10m of profit we've let go too"... so Ashton is damned if he did, and damned if he didn't.

Also sounds like the release clause is normally £40m, but it's only £30m because of relegation.

WE. DO. NOT. KNOW!

Calm down everyone. “We are well protected” is the most important thing I’ve read.