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Jermaine Wright
at 12:23 4 Apr 2020

Also, for a midfielder like Tommy Miller - who could actually get up, support and get beyond the front players to cause the opposition problems.

Even players likes Darren 'Stepover, beat a player twice' Currie would dramatically improve out midfield.
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RIP Bill Withers (n/t)
at 15:49 3 Apr 2020

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bill-withers-the-soul-man-who-walk

For those that want to learn a little more.
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Around 40% of staff tested at Great Ormond Street are positive for Covid19
at 16:20 2 Apr 2020

Of course a bad test is worse!

If the test says you haven't got it and you have and then continue to work....don't you think that would be problematic?!
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I have seen the future and it don't look good.
at 09:35 2 Apr 2020

A mare isn't it.
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I have seen the future and it don't look good.
at 09:34 2 Apr 2020

Indeed and the terms some businesses are being offered by authorised Banks and Lenders are rates as high as 30% and personal guarantees.

I appreciate this isn't something the Gov could plan for but it is such a mess.
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I have seen the future and it don't look good.
at 09:32 2 Apr 2020

See my post below SB - banks will only loan under the Gov's terms if they will not or cannot loan under their own terms.

Nightmare scenario. As you say, in effect what we are seeing is the drying up or liquidity and what there is simply not moving.

To be fair SB - the Banks were bailed out by the Gov (us) back in 2008 - if they don't return the favour then the UK economy is going to in a far worse position and for longer.
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I have seen the future and it don't look good.
at 09:30 2 Apr 2020

I hear you.

Get this - UK Finance yesterday confirmed the following with regards to the loans - you'll love this:

Banking trade body UK Finance said lenders were "working hard" to get money to businesses as quickly as possible both under the government-backed scheme or by offering normal loans.

But the group stressed that banks could only offer loans on the government's terms if they were unable to lend "under their normal criteria".

"As the business secretary said today, this is a new scheme delivered at pace and there will be issues that need to be addressed," Stephen Jones, who runs the trade body, said.


Yep, that's right - you are reading that correctly. The Government back loan scheme which offers the interest holidays, payment reductions and 80% backing is ONLY]]]] available if Banks won't loan under their terms! Absolute farce.
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Barlow, Gary
at 09:12 2 Apr 2020

And the current Gov is?
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Barlow, Gary
at 09:06 2 Apr 2020

Quite Steve, quite.
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Barlow, Gary
at 09:00 2 Apr 2020

Yes Lagos, that will be the one.
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Barlow, Gary
at 08:41 2 Apr 2020

Moreover this absurd idea that we should have a 'bluenose' day to support the NHS.

For f*cks sake - what sort of country do we live in where we even 'need' something like that!!! I have no doubt those supporting said 'bluenose day' are the the said same people who are against paying more tax.

#madness #whatsortofcountrydowelivein
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Today I'll be wrapping myself in electrical tape
at 13:04 1 Apr 2020

Yep, need to conduct some homeschooling as well.
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ITFC now close to furloughing staff....
at 11:57 1 Apr 2020

I understand what you are saying Joe (and the context you are suggesting) but it is incredibly important for people to understand that furlough does not equate to being unemployed.

Some will read that and think it applies to them (if they have been furloughed) and they are now unemployed, which they most certainly aren't.
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ITFC now close to furloughing staff....
at 11:54 1 Apr 2020

They cannot work for the employer that they are furloughing them.

Mute as football isn't happening - it doesn't mean they cannot stay fit, keep healthy etc.

They can work for someone else though (assuming they gain permission from their employer is said contract doesn't allow them to).
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ITFC now close to furloughing staff....
at 11:52 1 Apr 2020

Different type of employment contract means they cannot be furloughed under the Govs current process.

That doesn't stop clubs asking players to take unpaid leave etc.
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ITFC now close to furloughing staff....
at 11:52 1 Apr 2020

No, furloughing doesn't mean you are unemployed, the absolute opposite in fact.

Your employment contract stays intact - you are still an employee, your employer pays your wages and the employer claims it back from the Gov.

The issue with players is that they have a completely different kind of contract which means they cannot be furloughed in current usage.
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Herd Immunity
at 10:49 1 Apr 2020

OK - gone back and re-watched.

The first words he speaks are; 'The other parts of this....' - so my question is what went before? This clip indicates that when he speaks about 'herd immunity' it is not in isolation.

It implies it is part of something else. Without looking which I will do, I wonder what the longer clip and the whole interview covers?

I would say that Herd Immunity was discussed and was something the Gov had planned but it certainly was not 'the' plan in it's entirety.
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Herd Immunity
at 10:38 1 Apr 2020

Anyone who thought (regardless of comms from the Gov) that we wouldn't end up with a lock down was misguided to say the least.

Without the testing levels of South Korea to effectively manage isolating the right people and enough of them - we were always going to end up here.

I believe this was always a plan, whether it was plan A in he first instance we can debate but it has always been in the Govs plans.
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Herd Immunity
at 10:09 1 Apr 2020

The situation we are in i.e. lockdown was always our end point though - the Gov was always planning to and have phased this in (as opposed to say India for example).

Herd immunity, if memory serves was the entire plan. Also, the ever changing situation meant that the Gov always need the ability to flex and change tack.

I cannot find it now but there was a website that had a number of simulations (balls) showing the relevant effects of doing nothing, something, social distancing, lockdown and how immunity works in those scenarios.

The wider question with Guthers points to we currently do not know what the Immunity situation is with Covid-19 - a few weeks back there were reports coming from China of people catching it a second time but not being contagious, for example.
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Nothing on the behaviour of certain PL clubs as yet?
at 09:34 1 Apr 2020

Herein lies the problem of the Gov trying to do the right thing Joe.

We can't be surprised that Clubs would do this. They've never done anything to suggest they would do otherwise.
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