| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:08 - Mar 16 with 1434 views | chicoazul |
It'a almost like she wants them to go. That would be like campaigning for Remain then becoming PM and invoking A50 wouldnt it... |  |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:14 - Mar 16 with 1412 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:08 - Mar 16 by chicoazul |
It'a almost like she wants them to go. That would be like campaigning for Remain then becoming PM and invoking A50 wouldnt it... |
Tactically she has a point, politically she can now say she wanted to go for a harder Brexit but Sturgeon messed that up. |  |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:15 - Mar 16 with 1404 views | giant_stow |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:14 - Mar 16 by WeWereZombies |
Tactically she has a point, politically she can now say she wanted to go for a harder Brexit but Sturgeon messed that up. |
yes, yes, but circular bludy runaways...? wtf? |  |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:18 - Mar 16 with 1389 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:14 - Mar 16 by WeWereZombies |
Tactically she has a point, politically she can now say she wanted to go for a harder Brexit but Sturgeon messed that up. |
More guesswork? Or do you have a hiotline to both Number 10 and Bute House? |  |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:19 - Mar 16 with 1385 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:15 - Mar 16 by giant_stow |
yes, yes, but circular bludy runaways...? wtf? |
Well, if they get built they will be to blame the next time we have major flooding... | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:22 - Mar 16 with 1375 views | giant_stow |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:18 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue |
More guesswork? Or do you have a hiotline to both Number 10 and Bute House? |
You could always ask Zombie out on a date, you know.... | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:23 - Mar 16 with 1374 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:22 - Mar 16 by giant_stow |
You could always ask Zombie out on a date, you know.... |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:24 - Mar 16 with 1371 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:18 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue |
More guesswork? Or do you have a hiotline to both Number 10 and Bute House? |
You don't think her rhetoric, and the latest from Donald Tusk, has softened then? | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:34 - Mar 16 with 1351 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:24 - Mar 16 by WeWereZombies |
You don't think her rhetoric, and the latest from Donald Tusk, has softened then? |
I don't believe May will deviate from her Brexit plan which includes leaving the single market and the customs union, if that is what you mean by "hard Brexit".
There are too many trade opportunities outwith the EU.
That, of course, is my guess. I don't have a hotline to number 10. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:41 - Mar 16 with 1331 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:22 - Mar 16 by giant_stow |
You could always ask Zombie out on a date, you know.... |
I wouldn't want to make you jealous. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:46 - Mar 16 with 1313 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:34 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't believe May will deviate from her Brexit plan which includes leaving the single market and the customs union, if that is what you mean by "hard Brexit".
There are too many trade opportunities outwith the EU.
That, of course, is my guess. I don't have a hotline to number 10. |
I am just following the BBC and The Scotsman a bit more intently than usual at the moment, thats all. You seem to be right, in part, as I do I if David Davis in the final paragraph of this is anything to go by:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39282280
Still not sure if Sturgeon's IndyRef2 announcement on Monday was a masterstroke, a mistake or the only thing she could do. Unfortunately I am leaning towards the latter now, it doesn't seem as if the Holyrood legal team have picked a 'keep us in the EU before the rest of the UK leaves' clause out of the hat. Should be an interesting debate there next Wednesday. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:53 - Mar 16 with 1299 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:46 - Mar 16 by WeWereZombies |
I am just following the BBC and The Scotsman a bit more intently than usual at the moment, thats all. You seem to be right, in part, as I do I if David Davis in the final paragraph of this is anything to go by:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39282280
Still not sure if Sturgeon's IndyRef2 announcement on Monday was a masterstroke, a mistake or the only thing she could do. Unfortunately I am leaning towards the latter now, it doesn't seem as if the Holyrood legal team have picked a 'keep us in the EU before the rest of the UK leaves' clause out of the hat. Should be an interesting debate there next Wednesday. |
They don't half talk a load of guff.
"taking a step out into the world as a truly Global Britain"
Aye, because it's not as if we don't already operate globally  | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 14:29 - Mar 16 with 1253 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:53 - Mar 16 by Swansea_Blue |
They don't half talk a load of guff.
"taking a step out into the world as a truly Global Britain"
Aye, because it's not as if we don't already operate globally |
But don't you see, it will all be so much better when our financial transactions go through Singapore. We will be able to build a circular runway on the square mile then. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 14:35 - Mar 16 with 1235 views | dryas |
Also, she implies the Scots should indeed get a vote on the final deal, but the rest of the UK should just accept it. |  | | |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 14:41 - Mar 16 with 1213 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 14:35 - Mar 16 by dryas |
Also, she implies the Scots should indeed get a vote on the final deal, but the rest of the UK should just accept it. |
No she doesn't. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 14:44 - Mar 16 with 1202 views | J2BLUE |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:41 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue |
I wouldn't want to make you jealous. |
You're his brother? |  |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 15:43 - Mar 16 with 1168 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 13:46 - Mar 16 by WeWereZombies |
I am just following the BBC and The Scotsman a bit more intently than usual at the moment, thats all. You seem to be right, in part, as I do I if David Davis in the final paragraph of this is anything to go by:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39282280
Still not sure if Sturgeon's IndyRef2 announcement on Monday was a masterstroke, a mistake or the only thing she could do. Unfortunately I am leaning towards the latter now, it doesn't seem as if the Holyrood legal team have picked a 'keep us in the EU before the rest of the UK leaves' clause out of the hat. Should be an interesting debate there next Wednesday. |
The talk is now that May believes Sturgeon doesn't have a mandate to call a referendum and will only grant one if the SNP can get a majority at the next Scottish Parliamentary elections in 2021.
Quite clever if true because it will turn the 2021 elections into a mock referendum. And the SNP are having to fight that election on a poor record in Education, finance and public services. | |
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| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 16:11 - Mar 16 with 1129 views | WeWereZombies |
| 'Now not the time' for independence vote on 15:43 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue |
The talk is now that May believes Sturgeon doesn't have a mandate to call a referendum and will only grant one if the SNP can get a majority at the next Scottish Parliamentary elections in 2021.
Quite clever if true because it will turn the 2021 elections into a mock referendum. And the SNP are having to fight that election on a poor record in Education, finance and public services. |
I hear a lot about the SNP concentrating on the Central Belt and ignoring us up here but that doesn't seem to stop that yellow and black ribbon sticker being the emblem of choice on many cars. The first step is the Holyrood debate (unless May actions Article 50 before then but in a volatile World caution would suggest waiting until close to the end of the month - but not so close as to appear to be reckless brinkmanship). If the SNP and the Scottish Greens (for whom support for independence is not a requirement upon members) do not win the day then IndyRef2 is dead in the water - but they probably will. Will any LDs and Labour MSPs vote with the government in an attempt to maintain pressure on May? And if any event if May refuses a second referendum will she accelerate the passing of powers (or even agree to new powers being passed) to Holyrood to avoid a backlash in Scotland? It's going to be an eventful fortnight.
On the education, finance and public services question I think it should be borne in mind that many SNP MSPs, indeed Westmiinster SNP MPs, are fairly new to the job. They might have got their head around things and have got them working better by 2021 (or figured out how to keep poor performance quiet) and if the UK economy tanks (for Brexit reasons or otherwise) then it would be a case of missing a reasonable chance of a Naw for the certainty of an Aye. | |
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