| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing 16:15 - Oct 22 with 9458 views | Luk38644 |
No way do I agree with Mick saying we played well, I don't think we did at all... surely we have aspirations to play better than that? If you watched any other team play like that, would you really be sitting there thinking 'they played really well'... I certainly wouldn't. The first half was OK, just above average, but we weren't streets ahead of how Norwich. It was a fairly even game. Granted, we had the better chances of the half and could have been 1-0 up from McGoldrick, but that second half performance was abysmal, it lacked fight, it lacked quality, it lacked composure and we were made to pay by Maddison who was a handful all game.
I've said before that I struggle to see what our system is - What is our game plan? What's our best formation? What is our strategy to take the game to teams? I don't think we actually have one. There isn't much patient passing, we're not a counter-attacking team anymore and when we went 1-0 down, we just resorted to long balls at Waghorn. We have two centre-forwards filling the wide positions, one who has a lack of pace and plays better through the middle and we have a midfield three with no real attacking impetus. Norwich weren't phenomenal but the reason they won today is due to their structure and system. They played the same formation they have for the last 8 games, their players knew their roles, they knew the ability of the players around them, they knew which runs were being made, who was making them, and that opened us up one too many times. I hate talking positively about them, I really do, but their attacking midfield 3 behind Jerome were exceptional. After 5 seasons, why hasn't Mick adopted an approach and stuck with it? That's what we need, some bloody consistency in our approach. I get the whole 'Mick has a crap budget' argument but surely we can play better football with what we've got? Webster, Spence, Skuse, Adeyemi, Nydam, Waghorn, McG, Garner, Celina, Downes, Huws etc; These players aren't a bunch of sloggers, these players can actually keep the ball and play football, so why the hell don't we encourage it more often? I'm so f*cking bored of this 'dogged and turgid' approach. Fair enough when we needed to avoid relegation, but we've now gone 5 years without really building anything.
Norwich came and did what they had to do - Calm the game down, play their own game, keep us out at the back and nick a goal. They may not have been Barcelona but they've beaten us again and they've got 3 points away from home. It made me so p*ssed off watching them celebrate on the boxes and then after the game and I hope there will be a day soon that will be us at Carrow Road, but with the current direction of the club from the top down, I just can't see it.
Spence got torn a new one today. I've been championing him over Iorfa for a few weeks but blimey, who could have predicted he would have been that bad? Gave possession away consistently, kept getting over-run, backed off too far, missed tackles... the whole lot went wrong. I kind of felt sorry for him because he had absolutely no support when they were 2vs1. Why isn't Mick or one of the 'seasoned pros' taking responsibility and helping him out or changing things. He had Waghorn in front of him who wasn't getting back (he isn't a winger so why would he?) so that's when one of the three central midfielders need to get their a*s across to his side and help him out. Alas, they didn't and that's exactly where Norwich goal come from. Run down the wing, cut it back to Madison, acres of space and he picks his spot. Simple, too simple.
It's just so frustrating and not just because we lost today, not just because we've lost 7 of our last 9, but I just can't see where the turning point is if there is one? The atmosphere was very flat at times today, especially after they scored, and I would put it down to our fans being resigned to losing, we just didn't look like we'd muster one shot on target, let alone an equaliser. That second half performance was insipid, uninspiring and it's probably very reactionary but borderline embarrassing. At what point does it change, do we carry on with Mick hoping something clicks even though it hasn't for 5 years? I have my criticisms of Mick, those being he's reactionary not pro-active, we are scared to take the game to teams and we play crap football.
Feel free to say I'm being OTT, I'm upset and just being reactionary but I genuinely don't see where we go in the future. It can't carry on like this. I don't know the answer, I don't think many of us fans do know the answer, but I bloody hope someone at the club does because we're rotting away season on season. |  | | |  |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:15 - Oct 25 with 1648 views | Benters |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:06 - Oct 25 by textbackup |
he who dares, wins.
they are a forward thinking club now, not happy to just sit on arses and accept mediocre championship football. they aren't just happy to yoyo between the two leagues, they want to actually achieve something. where as our fanbase seem fcking terrified that once super mick leaves that the club will fold and we'll never attract another manager.... he has tricked you all into thinking he is the be all and end all, he really isn't. he had a great season with us (where he failed to win a must win game at Blackburn away, then failed to get us to a Wembley final over two legs)
hes failed in pretty much every "big" game we've faced. he can no longer inspire this club, nobody fcking cares about his interviews (before or after a match) his dull recycled jokes and quotes are just exactly that.
hes never had a plan
I see the same people blaming evans (whilst hes not blameless) what sort of manager just accepts a poor level of funding? one that has no ambition, no drive, no idea, one that is happy plodding along. MM wont rock the ME boat and vice versa. the only soppy tw.ats that suffer are us.
I see the likes of archer, herbivore, all seemingly upset at fans that just cant take this anymore, its incredible the lack of passion you have for the club, and you try and mock those of us that do.
the club is going to the dogs, but I guess feeling all superfan on an internet message board gives you a great sense of achievement |
A great read that.
Time has come for a change.
It will be interesting to see how many turn up for the Preston game.
Yes i am going before you ask. |  |
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| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:20 - Oct 25 with 1648 views | Currie10 |
Second half was incredibly poor, agreed there.
I don't think we were helped by Garner / Adeyemi being unable to do a full 90. In particular when Garner went off, we fell to absolute pieces. That shouldn't happen.
Also Knudsen was a major threat first half, Norwich wipe that out and what do we have!?
People need to make themselves available.
Celina MUST be given more time when we're chasing, for heavens sake Mick that doesn't give the lad much chance to get into the game.
The only glimmer of hope for me is -
We're FINALLY getting a full squad to pick from. Garner + Adeyemi should be able to do 90 vs Burton. Huws / Bishop should be back soon which will help. However clutching at straws.
As I've said on multiple posts on here, I think Mick's transfer dealings this summer given budget have been first class. His use of the squad however has not! |  | | |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:28 - Oct 25 with 1632 views | textbackup |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:20 - Oct 25 by Currie10 |
Second half was incredibly poor, agreed there.
I don't think we were helped by Garner / Adeyemi being unable to do a full 90. In particular when Garner went off, we fell to absolute pieces. That shouldn't happen.
Also Knudsen was a major threat first half, Norwich wipe that out and what do we have!?
People need to make themselves available.
Celina MUST be given more time when we're chasing, for heavens sake Mick that doesn't give the lad much chance to get into the game.
The only glimmer of hope for me is -
We're FINALLY getting a full squad to pick from. Garner + Adeyemi should be able to do 90 vs Burton. Huws / Bishop should be back soon which will help. However clutching at straws.
As I've said on multiple posts on here, I think Mick's transfer dealings this summer given budget have been first class. His use of the squad however has not! |
for 3 seasons now its been "once we get x y z back from injury"
trying to get professionals to run themselves into the ground because the manager cant think of a smart game plan is probably most of our injury problems.
we wont see huws, or bishop this season. |  |
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| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:29 - Oct 25 with 1630 views | Currie10 |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:28 - Oct 25 by textbackup |
for 3 seasons now its been "once we get x y z back from injury"
trying to get professionals to run themselves into the ground because the manager cant think of a smart game plan is probably most of our injury problems.
we wont see huws, or bishop this season. |
I don't think it has at all. Last season we didn't have massive injury issues - sure Dids, no striker, however this term we've had 8 + first teamers out. It makes a massive difference! Though we're not in that boat anymore.
Perhaps on Bish, though think Huws will be back soon.
15/16 a fit Dids / Bish + Fraser and we'd have 100% come top 6. | | | |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:36 - Oct 25 with 1623 views | textbackup |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:29 - Oct 25 by Currie10 |
I don't think it has at all. Last season we didn't have massive injury issues - sure Dids, no striker, however this term we've had 8 + first teamers out. It makes a massive difference! Though we're not in that boat anymore.
Perhaps on Bish, though think Huws will be back soon.
15/16 a fit Dids / Bish + Fraser and we'd have 100% come top 6. |
when we had 8 first teamers out we won 5/6 games (or something like that)
thank god we did, however, as those team we beat will be those that we are fighting with come the end of the season | |
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| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 06:04 - Oct 25 with 1616 views | tiptreeblue |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 04:36 - Oct 25 by textbackup |
when we had 8 first teamers out we won 5/6 games (or something like that)
thank god we did, however, as those team we beat will be those that we are fighting with come the end of the season |
The fact is, we won all those games because MM couldn`t play his normal way. But people can`t see that for some reason |  | | |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 06:23 - Oct 25 with 1606 views | Benters |
| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 06:04 - Oct 25 by tiptreeblue |
The fact is, we won all those games because MM couldn`t play his normal way. But people can`t see that for some reason |
I can. | |
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| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 10:05 - Oct 25 with 1574 views | strikalite |
Phil should print a few of these posts out and after the Press conference hand them to MM and say "have a read of these mate".... |  | | |
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| That second half was insipid and borderline embarrasing on 10:13 - Oct 25 with 1573 views | noggin |
POTY. You have said what everyone is feeling, I think. |  |
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