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This evening at 6:30pm GMT SpaceX are going to attempt to launch their new Falcon 9 Heavy. It can carry more than twice as much as the next largest rocket current in use to LEO.
Falcon Heavy will be a 'great rocket launch or the best fireworks display'
The most impressive thing is that they are going to try and land all 3 boosters independently so they can be reused. Once it works each launch will be about 90m USDcompared with 1bn USD for NASA's equivalent rocket which won't be ready for at least 2 years.
SB
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:43 - Feb 6 with 2535 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:33 - Feb 6 by StokieBlue
I see.
That's why he's not drawing a salary from SpaceX and all pay is performance related in ten years time. If he wanted money he would publicly float SpaceX and take the cash.
He wants humanity to be a multiplanetary species, if he achieves that and makes some money then good for him.
What will you be doing to advance mankind?
SB
Making the passports blue again
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:47 - Feb 6 with 2518 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:43 - Feb 6 by BloomBlue
He's American his passion is money and power.
There are so many people in the world getting rich who have no talent whatsoever. Reality tv 'stars' and reasonably attractive women showing plenty of flesh etc. I couldn't care less what his motivation is if he's going to develop real advances in technology like this. I want to see amazing things. I want to have the Mars version of the moon landings.
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:39 - Feb 6 by StokieBlue
We have different mindsets on many things and that's absolutely fine.
On this point though I think you are totally wrong. I find it position genuinely astonishing.
The population will require resources and they need to come from somewhere. Off planet is the best and cleanest source. You are sitting there typing on a device made with many rare minerals, connecting to other devices using rare minerals ad infinitum.
This resources are required, surely getting them from Asteroids is he most sensible solution. You are essentially advocating stagnation and eventually that will lead to extinction.
I don't understand your last paragraph on stored sun energy, can you elaborate.
SB
We are a million miles apart on this Stokie. I would give up tapping on this device in an instant if it helped make a different future more likely. More of the same going forward should not even be an option imho. A consumerist future is no future at all.
Oil/coal/wood (carbon) is essentially billions of years of stored sun energy. Bon nuit!
Edit.....go watch a starling murmuration (seriously)
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
We are a million miles apart on this Stokie. I would give up tapping on this device in an instant if it helped make a different future more likely. More of the same going forward should not even be an option imho. A consumerist future is no future at all.
Oil/coal/wood (carbon) is essentially billions of years of stored sun energy. Bon nuit!
Edit.....go watch a starling murmuration (seriously)
[Post edited 6 Feb 2018 22:50]
You've not said what future you do want, only the one you don't.
Why don't you expand on it so it can see it?
The "same" has made human life far better than it's ever been before. If you'd lined 100 years ago you'd be lucky to have made 60 living in total squalor. Note you'll hopefully live to 80 in comparative luxury. Go back further and things get even worse.
So let's flesh out this better future you think we should be aiming for.
SB
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 07:12 - Feb 7 with 2408 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 07:09 - Feb 7 by StokieBlue
You've not said what future you do want, only the one you don't.
Why don't you expand on it so it can see it?
The "same" has made human life far better than it's ever been before. If you'd lined 100 years ago you'd be lucky to have made 60 living in total squalor. Note you'll hopefully live to 80 in comparative luxury. Go back further and things get even worse.
So let's flesh out this better future you think we should be aiming for.
That's a classification system, not a way to effectively run a society or species. It doesn't have any specifics on how anything would actually work. It's all a bit fluffy and seems like you essentially want to regress 500 years.
SB
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 09:04 - Feb 7 with 2361 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 08:24 - Feb 7 by StokieBlue
That's a classification system, not a way to effectively run a society or species. It doesn't have any specifics on how anything would actually work. It's all a bit fluffy and seems like you essentially want to regress 500 years.
SB
[Post edited 7 Feb 2018 8:37]
It seemed appropriate in the context of whether to live on this planet or other ones/asteroids! Rule 1 in my utopia will be to make about 99/100 of the stuff we currently do. Rule 2 this stuff will be designed to keep working ....I will continue to develop my manifesto in the woods..... ....Meanwhile you can work on your essay about what it is you find so appealing about the current model that makes you want it to carry on ad infinitum ! ....to be continued, laterz SB .
Ps if Glassers us reading "take a day off !"
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Lets assume that humans are the only species in the universe capable of understanding their environment down to the atomic level (I don't believe this is the case but let's make the assumption for now). No other species can manipulate their resources to overcome fundamental forces of nature, in this case gravity. Given this don't we have a responsibility to continually increase our knowledge and to explore and appreciate the universe because no other species can? Furthermore, in this scenario don't we have a responsibility to ensure our survival by becoming multiplanetary? Surely an intelligent being is one of the most wonderous things in the universe and thus should be preserved and that can only be facilitated by technological progress in area's like yesterday's launch.
You would seem to not want progress and rather a more simplistic society which could eventually lead to the extinction of an intelligent (in this scenario, the only intelligent) species. All it would take is one disease or asteroid. Is this right or haven't you been clear?
On a more abstract point, it's entirely possible that to become multiplanetary you need to trash your own planet in the process. Each incremental stage of development brings unknown future consequences (take the industrial revolution for instance), each step towards the stars requires more resources. It might well be that species trash their own planet getting there but once they are multiplanetary they are advanced enough to not make he same mistakes and treat other planets in the universe with more respect and understanding. Hopefully they would go back and then fix their homeworld. All of that is of course subjecture and it doesn't mean we shouldn't protect our environment now we understand more, just that the current state of Earth might not be that unusual in species development terms.
It's certainly an interesting topic to discuss.
SB
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 12:38 - Feb 7 with 2305 views
It's done by a member of the public watching the launch and landing. Gives a much better idea of the speed they were landing at and you even get to hear the two sonic booms at the end.
Just for those who like to think it's all faked :).
SB
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 18:57 - Feb 7 with 2245 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 12:38 - Feb 7 by StokieBlue
This is a brilliant video:
It's done by a member of the public watching the launch and landing. Gives a much better idea of the speed they were landing at and you even get to hear the two sonic booms at the end.
Just for those who like to think it's all faked :).
SB
That sonic boom sounded like a car backfiring and the other person whispering something about a washing up liquid bottle and sticky back plastic what was that all about?
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SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 23:02 - Feb 7 with 2209 views
SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy launch on 22:39 - Feb 6 by StokieBlue
We have different mindsets on many things and that's absolutely fine.
On this point though I think you are totally wrong. I find it position genuinely astonishing.
The population will require resources and they need to come from somewhere. Off planet is the best and cleanest source. You are sitting there typing on a device made with many rare minerals, connecting to other devices using rare minerals ad infinitum.
This resources are required, surely getting them from Asteroids is he most sensible solution. You are essentially advocating stagnation and eventually that will lead to extinction.
I don't understand your last paragraph on stored sun energy, can you elaborate.
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