| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... 08:44 - May 28 with 2222 views | Swailsey |
Do we hate Hurst now because he isn’t a championship manager this morning?
I thought we wanted to look in L1/2.
The Shrews forum have picked up on some of our threads too.. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 08:50 - May 28 with 2177 views | DanTheMan |
Something like that. Apparently he has no plan B or something.
I missed the game so can't really talk about it. I thought the point with Hurst was that it was remarkable they were even in the playoff final given their resources. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:01 - May 28 with 2137 views | Mullet |
You'd say it was unbelievable, but it really isn't is it? Depressingly all this high-horse rhetoric about a fresh start, get behind the new man, young and hungry (bleurgh) etc. proves to be horse sh1t it seems from certain people.
Yesterday was like Burton meeting Villa in the final in terms of equivalence for this league. He's also given them a cup run, something supposedly important too when it suits. But because Hurst is similar to Mick the panic set in it seems. Even though, if you'd bother to check him out you'd know all of this already.
We're getting the manager with most potential possible who also fits in with what we're doing here. I think a few were too dazzled by Evans 20 minutes of literally saying everything and nothing and just picked out and clung to bits they liked the sound of or could mould into their own preferences.
99% will give him a go, and that's what really counts. Anyone moaning now is a guttersnipe. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:06 - May 28 with 2120 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 08:50 - May 28 by DanTheMan |
Something like that. Apparently he has no plan B or something.
I missed the game so can't really talk about it. I thought the point with Hurst was that it was remarkable they were even in the playoff final given their resources. |
On yesterday's evidence I have no idea how he managed to get 87pts, a play off final and a Checkatrade trophy final out of that side. |  | | |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:17 - May 28 with 2072 views | Texaco73 |
I don't think "we" do. Some individuals had become fixated on Ross and seeing Sunderland snap him up has probably caused some resentment in the protracted appointment process at ITFC.
We don't know what happened in the interviews so far and what ME really wants.
Hurst obviously isn't a bad manager. If he is appointed and is ME's preferred candidate, which is difficult to see if he has yet to speak to him, then we can only judge Hurst on his performance at PR. |  | | |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:19 - May 28 with 2059 views | Guthrum |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:01 - May 28 by Mullet |
You'd say it was unbelievable, but it really isn't is it? Depressingly all this high-horse rhetoric about a fresh start, get behind the new man, young and hungry (bleurgh) etc. proves to be horse sh1t it seems from certain people.
Yesterday was like Burton meeting Villa in the final in terms of equivalence for this league. He's also given them a cup run, something supposedly important too when it suits. But because Hurst is similar to Mick the panic set in it seems. Even though, if you'd bother to check him out you'd know all of this already.
We're getting the manager with most potential possible who also fits in with what we're doing here. I think a few were too dazzled by Evans 20 minutes of literally saying everything and nothing and just picked out and clung to bits they liked the sound of or could mould into their own preferences.
99% will give him a go, and that's what really counts. Anyone moaning now is a guttersnipe. |
So far, we have not the faintest idea of how Hurst would use our current squad, who he might get in or the tactics he might use with players of the quality available to him in the Championship. How he would handle the flow of talented youths coming out of a top-level academy. How the different style prevelant in the higher division (even down to smoothness of the pitches) may affect his own approach.
All we really know is that he managed to get one of the less well-endowed clubs in League One to a play-off final, finishing well clear of the teams below and only beaten by two clubs bouncing back after relegation (and relatively recently playing in the Prem). That's a very valuable quality for our situation. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:24 - May 28 with 2029 views | TheDailyTractor |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:06 - May 28 by tractorboy1978 |
On yesterday's evidence I have no idea how he managed to get 87pts, a play off final and a Checkatrade trophy final out of that side. |
For what it's worth that was shrewsburys 62nd or 63rd game last season. For the team they have and not a very large squad I think he's done extremely well. He would thrive with our academy.
He's basically taken a team in the relegation zone to almost the championship in a season and a bit with a bunch of players from non league and a few loans. He's not getting the credit he deserves from a lot of people - whether he ends up here or not. | | | |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:31 - May 28 with 1996 views | Mullet |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:19 - May 28 by Guthrum |
So far, we have not the faintest idea of how Hurst would use our current squad, who he might get in or the tactics he might use with players of the quality available to him in the Championship. How he would handle the flow of talented youths coming out of a top-level academy. How the different style prevelant in the higher division (even down to smoothness of the pitches) may affect his own approach.
All we really know is that he managed to get one of the less well-endowed clubs in League One to a play-off final, finishing well clear of the teams below and only beaten by two clubs bouncing back after relegation (and relatively recently playing in the Prem). That's a very valuable quality for our situation. |
I just hope he's given the season at least. Unless he turns out to be Jewell levels of inept, he needs that. It's possibly telling that the two scum players on loan looked very handy, Godfrey especially. As did their keeper from Utd.
Hopefully he'll revert us to a back four, but you sense he'll need to assess how many CMs are useful given how he switches them to dictate how his team sets up from a holding player to flat 442 etc. | |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:44 - May 28 with 1948 views | Guthrum |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:31 - May 28 by Mullet |
I just hope he's given the season at least. Unless he turns out to be Jewell levels of inept, he needs that. It's possibly telling that the two scum players on loan looked very handy, Godfrey especially. As did their keeper from Utd.
Hopefully he'll revert us to a back four, but you sense he'll need to assess how many CMs are useful given how he switches them to dictate how his team sets up from a holding player to flat 442 etc. |
Reverting to a back four will partly depend on who we can get playing out wide in the midfield. If we need to rely on wing-backs again, then we probably need three CBs to cover the defence. | |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:09 - May 28 with 1907 views | No9 |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:19 - May 28 by Guthrum |
So far, we have not the faintest idea of how Hurst would use our current squad, who he might get in or the tactics he might use with players of the quality available to him in the Championship. How he would handle the flow of talented youths coming out of a top-level academy. How the different style prevelant in the higher division (even down to smoothness of the pitches) may affect his own approach.
All we really know is that he managed to get one of the less well-endowed clubs in League One to a play-off final, finishing well clear of the teams below and only beaten by two clubs bouncing back after relegation (and relatively recently playing in the Prem). That's a very valuable quality for our situation. |
This is the nub of the issue isn't it? How many of Towns players see themselves as MM's first choice and will they perform for A.N.Other
It isn't just Town that face this dilema it is all teams bringing in a new man to take over.
From where I sit a complete re-build of midfiled is essential and reinforcement at the back - depending on what his preferred M.O. is will be critical to move forward.
presently I'm not convinced were are not looking at MM Mk II | | | |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:25 - May 28 with 1866 views | Superfrans |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:31 - May 28 by Mullet |
I just hope he's given the season at least. Unless he turns out to be Jewell levels of inept, he needs that. It's possibly telling that the two scum players on loan looked very handy, Godfrey especially. As did their keeper from Utd.
Hopefully he'll revert us to a back four, but you sense he'll need to assess how many CMs are useful given how he switches them to dictate how his team sets up from a holding player to flat 442 etc. |
“The season at least”???
If we’re going into a new era with a new manager, we need to start off with 2-3 years being the default. For a start, if we hire Hurst he’s going to be starting about two weeks before pre-season starts, we’re highly unlikely to be firing on all cylinders by the time the season gets underway. It’s going to be a year before it’s really his team, if then.
Next season’s target should be mid-table, 2019-20 should be the season when we’re looking to make progress. If we overperform against that, all the better. But we should definitely NOT be judging him until we’re a couple of seasons in, at the earliest. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:27 - May 28 with 1858 views | imsureazzure |
Some just have to moan, some just have to whine about people moaning, some just have to moa...…………………………………………….
ad nauseum. |  | | |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:43 - May 28 with 1826 views | Guthrum |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:09 - May 28 by No9 |
This is the nub of the issue isn't it? How many of Towns players see themselves as MM's first choice and will they perform for A.N.Other
It isn't just Town that face this dilema it is all teams bringing in a new man to take over.
From where I sit a complete re-build of midfiled is essential and reinforcement at the back - depending on what his preferred M.O. is will be critical to move forward.
presently I'm not convinced were are not looking at MM Mk II |
Don't see too much of a problem with McCarthy Mk II, so long as a) he handles relations with fans a bit better; and b) he doesn't go so far into defensive mode when things aren't going well.
If the players really don't want to perform for the new man, I doubt they'll stay. In reality, unless he's asking them to do things they really feel they aren't up to or is some sort of abrasive personality, I doubt most members of the squad would not be happy to carry on at ITFC. Especially if there is some success to lift the spirits. | |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:50 - May 28 with 1804 views | Guthrum |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:25 - May 28 by Superfrans |
“The season at least”???
If we’re going into a new era with a new manager, we need to start off with 2-3 years being the default. For a start, if we hire Hurst he’s going to be starting about two weeks before pre-season starts, we’re highly unlikely to be firing on all cylinders by the time the season gets underway. It’s going to be a year before it’s really his team, if then.
Next season’s target should be mid-table, 2019-20 should be the season when we’re looking to make progress. If we overperform against that, all the better. But we should definitely NOT be judging him until we’re a couple of seasons in, at the earliest. |
This "lack of preparation" thing is overstated. A lot of managers take over in mid-season, with just days to assess and organise the team before their first competitive game. Our new man will have the whole of preseason. | |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 11:03 - May 28 with 1780 views | BlueBadger |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 09:31 - May 28 by Mullet |
I just hope he's given the season at least. Unless he turns out to be Jewell levels of inept, he needs that. It's possibly telling that the two scum players on loan looked very handy, Godfrey especially. As did their keeper from Utd.
Hopefully he'll revert us to a back four, but you sense he'll need to assess how many CMs are useful given how he switches them to dictate how his team sets up from a holding player to flat 442 etc. |
Given that he gave Keane a season and half when it was painfully apparent he wasn't up to the job by the end of September 2009, I'm sure he'll get time. |  |
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| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 12:22 - May 28 with 1705 views | Mullet |
| Quick lazy scan of the forum this morning... on 10:25 - May 28 by Superfrans |
“The season at least”???
If we’re going into a new era with a new manager, we need to start off with 2-3 years being the default. For a start, if we hire Hurst he’s going to be starting about two weeks before pre-season starts, we’re highly unlikely to be firing on all cylinders by the time the season gets underway. It’s going to be a year before it’s really his team, if then.
Next season’s target should be mid-table, 2019-20 should be the season when we’re looking to make progress. If we overperform against that, all the better. But we should definitely NOT be judging him until we’re a couple of seasons in, at the earliest. |
I agree, but I'm talking about those who don't want him now based on 90 mins or so being joined by a few if the losses pile up at all early doors. | |
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