| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? 08:55 - Mar 1 with 5645 views | Doctor_Earman |
Marcus Evans is almost 100% to blame for our current predicament. The main reason being that, as owner, Evans is responsible for running the club. That entails deciding upon a strategy (both a footballing and non-footballing one), appointing staff (not just managers), setting the level of ambition and setting the levels of investment.
Evans has failed here on all counts. Only in recent years has there been a long-term 'strategy' to speak of. However, the whole '5-point plan' nonsense and the appeal to a 'technical style of football' is utter hogwash. There is no long-term strategy at ITFC.
His record has also been incredibly poor when appointing staff. Keane, Jewell, Hurst and now Lambert have all proven to be shocking appointments. Moreover, Evans putting the likes of Simon Clegg and Ian Milne in charge of running the club on a day-to-day basis were diabolical decisions and smack of someone who either doesn't care about the football club or someone who has no idea what they're doing. In Evans' case it's probably both.
Ever since Mick came in Evans has effectively given up on ITFC. Almost no investment in the playing squad has meant relegation was always coming sooner or later. The failure to spend in the January of 2015 told us all loud and clear that Evans no longer had any ambition for the club. As owner and chairman of the club this lack of ambition and sheer complacency has unfortunately percolated down to all levels of the football club - management, players and even fans. People will moan about Lambert and his poor record but who was it that gave him the 5-year contract? It means Lambert is under no real pressure to succeed. If Lambert is under no real pressure to succeed then the players are also under no real pressure to succeed. The whole club is rank with accepting mediocrity.
Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING, will change until Evans is out of the club. He sets the tone of what he wants the club to be and is now the biggest barrier to ITFC ever achieving anything remotely close to success. It's all very sad of course, but please just remember who the real villain of the piece is and is causing all of this: MARCUS EVANS! |  | | |  |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:36 - Mar 1 with 1872 views | sparks |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:35 - Mar 1 by Doctor_Earman |
No. |
Tell us about these offers. |  |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:38 - Mar 1 with 1871 views | r2d2 |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:02 - Mar 1 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think everyone realises that Evans is a big problem, I assume you have seen the many posts.
But that also stems from the fact that the structure of football is f*cked! 90% of fans are unhappy with their owners.
I'm sure Evans must massively regret ever buying Ipswich. |
If he regrets it, why buy it in the first place? How you own a football club and show no interest in it is ridiculous. Try and at least make it saleable if you want out. He isnt even trying to do that. |  | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:39 - Mar 1 with 1868 views | Doctor_Earman |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:31 - Mar 1 by sparks |
What do you think an owner needs to do that Evan's does not in order to avoid being a rotherham type yoyo club? |
Many things: investing more, appointing someone who actually knows what they're doing to run the football club, coming up with a genuine plan for the long-term and not some PR spin, demanding more from managers and not accepting mediocrity, extracting better fees for out best players etc. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:43 - Mar 1 with 1855 views | r2d2 |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:36 - Mar 1 by sparks |
Tell us about these offers. |
Evans said himself he has had offers. So, sell for a pound if he isnt interested. Will save him millions in the long run. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:44 - Mar 1 with 1853 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:34 - Mar 1 by Oxford_Blue |
He’s worth nearly £1bn. He’s achieved that from scratch.
I’d suggest that indicates someone with drive and determination wouldn’t you? |
Agreed.
He's clearly a good businessman, just not so good at running a football club. He'd probably admit that... and he's not alone there. |  |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:45 - Mar 1 with 1852 views | sparks |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:38 - Mar 1 by r2d2 |
If he regrets it, why buy it in the first place? How you own a football club and show no interest in it is ridiculous. Try and at least make it saleable if you want out. He isnt even trying to do that. |
In what world is significant investment equal to showing no interest?
It is quite clear that football finance has changed massively since purchase | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:47 - Mar 1 with 1840 views | sparks |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:43 - Mar 1 by r2d2 |
Evans said himself he has had offers. So, sell for a pound if he isnt interested. Will save him millions in the long run. |
Tell us about them. Without some detail we can't make any assessment of whether he could or should have accepted. Can we? | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:48 - Mar 1 with 1837 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:38 - Mar 1 by r2d2 |
If he regrets it, why buy it in the first place? How you own a football club and show no interest in it is ridiculous. Try and at least make it saleable if you want out. He isnt even trying to do that. |
To accuse him of showing no interest in ITFC is a disgrace. He’s put more money into the club than anybody else before him, I expect he’s attended more games than you have this season and he clearly spends a lot of his time on ITFC related stuff.
Criticise him for managerial choices, not having the right infrastructure, being too slow to change things etc but don’t post nonsense about somebody who has put tens of millions into something not caring about it, deeply.
He’s not worth anything like a billion quid and is obviously running the club within the parameters of what he can afford with liquid assets. Until somebody finds a prospective owner who also has tens (perhaps hundreds) of millions to throw away, and of course doesn’t interfere with the team, change the kit colour, rename the stadium etc etc then we are where we are in terms of ownership. This season is almost entirely on the manager and the players - both clearly struggling. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:49 - Mar 1 with 1831 views | Ftnfwest |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:38 - Mar 1 by r2d2 |
If he regrets it, why buy it in the first place? How you own a football club and show no interest in it is ridiculous. Try and at least make it saleable if you want out. He isnt even trying to do that. |
Because you can’t regret something you haven’t done I expect |  | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:11 - Mar 1 with 1805 views | BlueBadger |
Evans is responsible for us ending up in the third division. Lambert is responsible for our ever-increasing chances of staying there. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 12:09]
|  |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:14 - Mar 1 with 1801 views | Guthrum |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:44 - Mar 1 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Agreed.
He's clearly a good businessman, just not so good at running a football club. He'd probably admit that... and he's not alone there. |
Many other football club owners have been the same, with results ranging from the ridiculous (Vincent Tan and his red shirts) to the outright destructive (Portsmouth, Bury, Blackpool). We fall slightly in the lower half of that scale.
Changing owner without careful consideration of the potential buyer would be a dice roll heavily weighted toward the bottom of that table. Altho we do have the advantage of not being able to sell off the Portman Road plot, so are less likely to attract the real asset-ripping shysters. |  |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:14 - Mar 1 with 1799 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:39 - Mar 1 by Doctor_Earman |
Many things: investing more, appointing someone who actually knows what they're doing to run the football club, coming up with a genuine plan for the long-term and not some PR spin, demanding more from managers and not accepting mediocrity, extracting better fees for out best players etc. |
None of that is specific or is guaranteed to provide success.
Investing more? How much? He backed three managers significantly and it didn’t work. How do you know Evans has that ready cash available?
Who is the person that should run the club? And why would that make players win games?
Demanding more and not accepting mediocrity? He’s sacked four managers for that reason. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:21 - Mar 1 with 1779 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 09:48 - Mar 1 by PrideOfTheEast |
To accuse him of showing no interest in ITFC is a disgrace. He’s put more money into the club than anybody else before him, I expect he’s attended more games than you have this season and he clearly spends a lot of his time on ITFC related stuff.
Criticise him for managerial choices, not having the right infrastructure, being too slow to change things etc but don’t post nonsense about somebody who has put tens of millions into something not caring about it, deeply.
He’s not worth anything like a billion quid and is obviously running the club within the parameters of what he can afford with liquid assets. Until somebody finds a prospective owner who also has tens (perhaps hundreds) of millions to throw away, and of course doesn’t interfere with the team, change the kit colour, rename the stadium etc etc then we are where we are in terms of ownership. This season is almost entirely on the manager and the players - both clearly struggling. |
He’s reported to be worth about £800-850m. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:31 - Mar 1 with 1772 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:21 - Mar 1 by Oxford_Blue |
He’s reported to be worth about £800-850m. |
And I can assure you he isn’t worth anything like that. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:34 - Mar 1 with 1765 views | BackToRussia |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:31 - Mar 1 by PrideOfTheEast |
And I can assure you he isn’t worth anything like that. |
Interesting. |  |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:43 - Mar 1 with 1750 views | Guthrum |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:31 - Mar 1 by PrideOfTheEast |
And I can assure you he isn’t worth anything like that. |
Even if his paper worth is in that sort of bracket, it only represents the notional value of companies he owns. Actual liquid wealth which he can spend will be a very small fraction of that figure.
The methodology of the Sunday Times Rich List is (or always used to be) clearly set out, but a surface reading of such publications leads to a lot of loose thinking. | |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:08 - Mar 1 with 1738 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:31 - Mar 1 by PrideOfTheEast |
And I can assure you he isn’t worth anything like that. |
No you can’t. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:19 - Mar 1 with 1734 views | TractorCraigo |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 08:58 - Mar 1 by sparks |
He has got manager choices wrong. But few called it that way at the time of those appointments
Beyond that your argument lacks facts. |
Why can't you realise that we would be in a worse position without backing of Marcus Evans. This is nothing more than a rant, and just your opinion. We have some great young players coming through and just need to give them more time. Rome was not built in a day, and we made a huge mistake with last seasons signings. We needed quality and Hurst went for quantity. So far I have not been impressed with a single signing he made, but have been impressed with the signings this season. I did not believe we had the squad to win this league based on last years performances, but we are one or two players away from being a good side. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:50 - Mar 1 with 1718 views | jeera |
Have you ever bothered to read your own link?
This has been done a hundred times:
"You get people calling up and most of those people are not credible...
The one or two that were credible, that I decided not to proceed with, bought other clubs. I won’t mention which two particular owners they are, but they no longer own the football clubs they said they were going to do amazing things with."
So he's saying those potential owners had short-term plans which they abandoned when it didn't show instant rewards.
Those are your examples? [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 11:50]
|  |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:54 - Mar 1 with 1710 views | jeera |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 10:21 - Mar 1 by Oxford_Blue |
He’s reported to be worth about £800-850m. |
You're trying to argue with someone who's agreeing with you.
PofE has defended Evans but is rightly saying the man hasn't got the cash that some fans consider necessary to fund more than he already does.
To say he is worth X amount is irrelevant anyway if it's mostly trapped in non accessible assets.
I cannot see what you're disagreeing with there. | |
| |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:59 - Mar 1 with 1701 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:54 - Mar 1 by jeera |
You're trying to argue with someone who's agreeing with you.
PofE has defended Evans but is rightly saying the man hasn't got the cash that some fans consider necessary to fund more than he already does.
To say he is worth X amount is irrelevant anyway if it's mostly trapped in non accessible assets.
I cannot see what you're disagreeing with there. |
Someone said he wasn’t worth anything near to 1bn.
That’s all.
Agree he probably doesn’t have disposable tens of millions lying around and if he did why waste them on a football club (again) | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 12:44 - Mar 1 with 1683 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 11:08 - Mar 1 by Oxford_Blue |
No you can’t. |
I can. Others on here can vouch for that. | | | |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 12:49 - Mar 1 with 1670 views | jeera |
| Why can't some people realise Evans is the main problem? on 12:44 - Mar 1 by PrideOfTheEast |
I can. Others on here can vouch for that. |
I don't know this poster ^ personally but he's been around for many years and I can verify others who know him will vouch he is genuine. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
