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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus 09:38 - Mar 23 with 416 viewsSwansea_Blue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56491532

Spot the contrast to us:
- Pre-existing plan before first case
- Medical not political lead
- Immediate, hard line action
- Aggressive testing & tracing (real detectives on the team) - tracing system in place before first case
- International and domestic strict quarantine from the start

A much smaller country of course, but then I think it's pretty clear it's the activity not the size that's the critical factor.

For comparison - we have had about 1,890 deaths per million, they've had 81 per mill (29 in total).

Fascinating place and well worth a visit for those who haven't had the chance to go.

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 09:46 - Mar 23 with 380 viewsKeno

yep but Iceland is a island which has control of its own borders ...........

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 09:51 - Mar 23 with 365 viewsclive_baker

Wonderful country and lovely people, just don't let them convince you Hakarl is a good idea in a restaurant.

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:01 - Mar 23 with 345 viewsStokieBlue

I'm not entirely convinced the size isn't important.

Unless you go full authoritarian like China then for a country like the UK which is one of the main the transport hubs in and out of Europe it's a lot more difficult to close down than somewhere like Iceland. Iceland is also a lot less distributed in population, 35% of their entire population lives in a single city.

Same for having real detectives on the test and track, we simply have a population which is too big to do that.

The rest of the points are certainly sound and we really should have done much better and it's hard to see how anyone can argument against that point.

The lack of an up-to-date pre-existing plan is unforgivable really.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:17 - Mar 23 with 331 viewsSwansea_Blue

Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:01 - Mar 23 by StokieBlue

I'm not entirely convinced the size isn't important.

Unless you go full authoritarian like China then for a country like the UK which is one of the main the transport hubs in and out of Europe it's a lot more difficult to close down than somewhere like Iceland. Iceland is also a lot less distributed in population, 35% of their entire population lives in a single city.

Same for having real detectives on the test and track, we simply have a population which is too big to do that.

The rest of the points are certainly sound and we really should have done much better and it's hard to see how anyone can argument against that point.

The lack of an up-to-date pre-existing plan is unforgivable really.

SB


A lot of it's scalable stuff though and we have more resources to play with. Imposing strict quarantine at one airport is not different than imposing it at 40, for example. The big difference on borders would be the amount of road haulage coming in - that's something they don't have to worry about.

It's certainly simpler for them, but their clear plan and rapid action will undoubtedly have made a big difference. We didn't start testing at airports until this year and still don't have compulsory quarantine. Countries much larger than Iceland have introduced such measures earlier to good effect.

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:26 - Mar 23 with 319 viewsStokieBlue

Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:17 - Mar 23 by Swansea_Blue

A lot of it's scalable stuff though and we have more resources to play with. Imposing strict quarantine at one airport is not different than imposing it at 40, for example. The big difference on borders would be the amount of road haulage coming in - that's something they don't have to worry about.

It's certainly simpler for them, but their clear plan and rapid action will undoubtedly have made a big difference. We didn't start testing at airports until this year and still don't have compulsory quarantine. Countries much larger than Iceland have introduced such measures earlier to good effect.


I'm still not sure about that. The UK is an international travel hub whilst Iceland is probably a few planes a day. Now of course you could entirely shut down the UK borders but the effect on the rest of the world is quite large whereas it's totally insignificant if Iceland do it. Same with regards the amount of freight (land, sea and air) that comes through the UK.

Testing at airports simply wasn't possible because the tests were too slow and the number of people was too large - the only way would have been to close the airports (which feeds into your first point of course).

I can't think of any countries with the population of the UK or the interconnected nature with regards to transport that have implemented such strict measures. China I guess but everything which is done at the end of a gun is easier.

To clarify, you are spot on that we should have done better, I just don't specifically agree that a lot of what Iceland did is strictly comparable. There needs to be an enquiry in this country to get to the bottom of everything that went wrong.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:37 - Mar 23 with 295 viewsLeoMuff

Also South Korea, 1800 deaths with pop 51 million.

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Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:40 - Mar 23 with 286 viewsStokieBlue

Interesting little article on Iceland's success with coronavirus on 10:37 - Mar 23 by LeoMuff

Also South Korea, 1800 deaths with pop 51 million.


SK have done really well and is a more comparable example, although still not as integrated as a transport hub as the UK.

They had an excellent track and trace system in place from previous viruses.

Hopefully any investigation will look into these differences with other countries.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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