| Arlene Foster is standing down on 16:42 - Apr 28 with 728 views | bluelagos |
Given that part of the Unionist discontent with her, is reported discontent over how the Brexit deal has panned out with checks between RoUK and NI - struggling to see how a new hard line DUP leader would bring that about. |  |
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| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:27 - Apr 28 with 682 views | Keno |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 16:42 - Apr 28 by bluelagos |
Given that part of the Unionist discontent with her, is reported discontent over how the Brexit deal has panned out with checks between RoUK and NI - struggling to see how a new hard line DUP leader would bring that about. |
if the DUP go to hard-line they risk isolating themselves with people drifting to more moderate sounding parties.
NI has got use to peace, its only a small lunatic fringe, which includes the far right of the Tories, that want to disturb that.
Also with Biden in the White House probably isnt the best time for the DUP to go the 'full Paisley" |  |
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| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:31 - Apr 28 with 675 views | bluelagos |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:27 - Apr 28 by Keno |
if the DUP go to hard-line they risk isolating themselves with people drifting to more moderate sounding parties.
NI has got use to peace, its only a small lunatic fringe, which includes the far right of the Tories, that want to disturb that.
Also with Biden in the White House probably isnt the best time for the DUP to go the 'full Paisley" |
Still comes down to a numbers game. Protestants/Unionists voters are in the majority - but Catholics/Republicans are now in the majority of the public.
Another 20 years when those younguns are voters - there could well be a Catholic/Republican majority at the ballot box.
Don't see the old fault lines changing irrespective, so just a matter of time / patience imho. | |
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| Arlene Foster is standing down on 19:53 - Apr 28 with 622 views | Keno |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:31 - Apr 28 by bluelagos |
Still comes down to a numbers game. Protestants/Unionists voters are in the majority - but Catholics/Republicans are now in the majority of the public.
Another 20 years when those younguns are voters - there could well be a Catholic/Republican majority at the ballot box.
Don't see the old fault lines changing irrespective, so just a matter of time / patience imho. |
Im not sure there much in that divide nowadays.
The largest group are still deemed to be Protestant with the best estimate in the high 40%'s
Catholics are now thought to be mid 40%'s
Where it gets interesting that
1, there are something like 10% who claim to be niether (which is a growing number)
2, there is also a large number of younger Protestants and Catholics who are nominally included in their groups but are nor religious
There a trend away from the traditional view of Orange and Green, with people wanting peace and thats why the DUP are worried and why moving to a move belligerent stance may back fire on them | |
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| Arlene Foster is standing down on 20:05 - Apr 28 with 589 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:27 - Apr 28 by Keno |
if the DUP go to hard-line they risk isolating themselves with people drifting to more moderate sounding parties.
NI has got use to peace, its only a small lunatic fringe, which includes the far right of the Tories, that want to disturb that.
Also with Biden in the White House probably isnt the best time for the DUP to go the 'full Paisley" |
I hope you're right. Horrible to think we could start to see things slip back towards how they were. It's a gorgeous place and the people are great fun to be around (as long as you keep them off politics). I spent a few years working with people from Queens Uni, which involved several trips that I don't remember too much about. Terrible headaches, but I think I enjoyed myself. |  |
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| Arlene Foster is standing down on 20:26 - Apr 28 with 572 views | HARRY10 |
eh ?
It is because she is linked with a move in that direction that she has been forced out
ie the very opposite of what you are asking |  | | |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 20:31 - Apr 28 with 544 views | ZXBlue |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 17:31 - Apr 28 by bluelagos |
Still comes down to a numbers game. Protestants/Unionists voters are in the majority - but Catholics/Republicans are now in the majority of the public.
Another 20 years when those younguns are voters - there could well be a Catholic/Republican majority at the ballot box.
Don't see the old fault lines changing irrespective, so just a matter of time / patience imho. |
How does time help?
You just have the opposite problem when the balance shifts. | | | |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 21:17 - Apr 28 with 502 views | HARRY10 |
| Arlene Foster is standing down on 20:31 - Apr 28 by ZXBlue |
How does time help?
You just have the opposite problem when the balance shifts. |
Time has seen far fewer people on the extreme edges of both sides.
A whole generation has grown up on an island where freedom of movement for work and social matters is the norm. Those numbers will further increase with time.
NI's problems are economic rather than social. So it matters little in the bigger picture which side is in charge. And it is those economic failings that allow for all manner of false promises to be not only peddled, but believed 9see Northern England)
The unionists in the north who claim that further isolation will improve their lot, are not so much stupid as they are trying to retain their petty fiefdoms within the community,
Foster is a convenient scapegoat for unionist politicians lies now being exposed. There was always going to be a border down the Irish Sea once the UK left the EU. And as the effects bite harder by the day, someone has to be blamed - though not those who encouraged unionists to support the stupidity.
As with northern England, putting your trust in proven liars spouting impossible promises is always doomed to failure. The question is not how long that failure takes to be reacted against - but how long it takes to be understood why it was never going to work. | | | |
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