| This'll upset a few... on 07:45 - Jan 7 with 1076 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| This'll upset a few... on 14:34 - Jan 6 by SouthBucksBlue |
The thing is that the jury seems to have returned a verdict based on sentiment and not law as it clearly was criminal damage. That’s not the intention of trial by jury. |
You realise you can have committed the crime but still be found not guilty right?
In my law A-level we studied a case where the defendant was a fella in his 40s who punched a bloke a few times in the head. It was on camera and there was several witnesses. However, he had a trial by jury and plead ‘not guilty’. His opening line of his defence was ‘I did it. I don’t deny that I did it. I absolutely punched this man but this is why you should find me not guilty’ (I’m paraphrasing somewhat because it was the lawyer speaking but you get the picture. He admitted it).
It turned out that the guy he punched was the person who killed his son many years before. And that they’d ran into each other by chance in a bar and the convicted killer was provoking the dad across the room. More and more as the night went on. Minutes before he punched him, he even commented about the dads son ‘still being dead’. Eventually one more comment and smug grin later and the dad had enough and retaliated by punching the guy.
With the CCTV and the witnesses, the police chose to take it to court (ABH I think it was off the top of my head). However, the defendant was found ‘not guilty’ despite throughout the duration of court case admitting to what he was being tried for.
It was a good case to study because it emphasised the importance of a jury system. |  |
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| This'll upset a few... on 08:14 - Jan 7 with 1052 views | Herbivore |
| This'll upset a few... on 23:59 - Jan 6 by Bluedicea |
I was just imparting information to folks. There's no need to start throwing insults into a discussion.
Read a few law books, attend a few trials and then maybe your snide opinion would carry more weight and you would understand the rule of law better than you currently do.
Crime happens all the time, sometimes people are found guilty of committing them sometimes they are found innocent or not guilty of committing the crime. The crime remains, because it's an incident in time that breaks the rules of the land that govern us. |
So much of this just isn't correct and yet you are condescending to others. Not a great look. |  |
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| This'll upset a few... on 08:26 - Jan 7 with 1041 views | Herbivore |
| This'll upset a few... on 01:01 - Jan 7 by Bluedicea |
Usinv you exact example in a different setting and it becomes ridiculous.
So if someone sprays graffiti all over your car and person then offers you 1p over the current value of the car, it's no longer a crime because it increases the value.
And the statue is worth more as scrap metal than as a statue, so defacing it or desecrating it, doesn't add to it's value. It's adds nothing whatsoever to it. So that argument is invalid. The fact as it was toppled over it almost hit people, watch the videos, means it was a action that could potentially put people in danger of injury which would then of resulted in a more serious crime.
A crime was committed, the 4 folks were found not guilty of committing the crime they were charged with. It doesn't make the crime go away, it just means they haven't been prosecuted for the crime.
If you incapable of understanding the difference there, then I'm sorry I can't help you. I've tried explaining what a crime is by definition, but it's your choice to disagree with what it is, facts obviously can't change your opinion. |
Again, so much of this is incorrect that you should really dial down the patronising tone. | |
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| This'll upset a few... on 08:29 - Jan 7 with 1041 views | bluelagos |
| This'll upset a few... on 00:46 - Jan 7 by XYZ |
You're a know-nothing bullsh!tter as far as the law goes.
You've shown nothing approaching intelligence in this thread.
"Blasphemy" lol.
Haven't seen you round here before, but boy have you underestimated your audience.
Totally, forensically, dismantled by a number of long-standing respected posters but too blindly thick to even realise.
Honestly, we've had much better trolls than this. 0/10. [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 0:46]
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Ouch... |  |
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| This'll upset a few... on 13:20 - Jan 7 with 940 views | Kievthegreat |
| This'll upset a few... on 00:46 - Jan 7 by XYZ |
You're a know-nothing bullsh!tter as far as the law goes.
You've shown nothing approaching intelligence in this thread.
"Blasphemy" lol.
Haven't seen you round here before, but boy have you underestimated your audience.
Totally, forensically, dismantled by a number of long-standing respected posters but too blindly thick to even realise.
Honestly, we've had much better trolls than this. 0/10. [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 0:46]
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Hello officer, I would like to report a murder.
Obviously it doesnt matter if XYZ is found guilty or not, it will still be a crime presumably. |  | | |
| This'll upset a few... on 14:06 - Jan 7 with 914 views | XYZ |
| This'll upset a few... on 13:20 - Jan 7 by Kievthegreat |
Hello officer, I would like to report a murder.
Obviously it doesnt matter if XYZ is found guilty or not, it will still be a crime presumably. |
There's various defences to a charge of murder - self-defence, etc.
If the defence is made successfully then no offence has been committed.
It's really not that difficult. |  | | |
| This'll upset a few... on 14:25 - Jan 7 with 895 views | Kievthegreat |
| This'll upset a few... on 14:06 - Jan 7 by XYZ |
There's various defences to a charge of murder - self-defence, etc.
If the defence is made successfully then no offence has been committed.
It's really not that difficult. |
While you're 100% correct, I may have to whoosh you Sir... | | | |
| This'll upset a few... on 16:59 - Jan 7 with 814 views | XYZ |
| This'll upset a few... on 14:25 - Jan 7 by Kievthegreat |
While you're 100% correct, I may have to whoosh you Sir... |
Too subtle for me ... | | | |
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