| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that 13:53 - Feb 24 with 3063 views | homer_123 |
no one is really going to stop Russia?
I mean, no one stepped in when Crimea was annexed - even global sanctions are not going to cut it.
It's clear there is no appetite for anything other than weapons support for the Ukraine. Very difficult to not see anything other than a fully taken over Ukraine with a puppet government. |  |
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| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 16:47 - Feb 24 with 471 views | Guthrum |
| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 14:09 - Feb 24 by Vaughan8 |
I'm not expert but I saw on the news that I think the fact is, if Russia aren't invading a NATO country, NATO aren't going to send any miliary help, so its Ukraine on their own.
And did Russia do some Deal with China to help again NATO sanctions? [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 14:10]
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NATO is primarily a mutual defence alliance. If you're not a member, you aren't covered.
NATO getting directly involved in Ukraine - especially now conflict has started - would certainly lead to war with Russia and quite possibly the use of nuclear weapons when Putin finds himself losing*.
* Which is very likely. Russia is militarily strong, but not to the same level as the old USSR or in a position to outmatch NATO in a conventional war. |  |
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| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 16:50 - Feb 24 with 466 views | chicoazul |
Believe the absolute ultimate dead cat is about to be thrown on the news table lads. And I’m not talking about Norwood leaving. |  |
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| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 16:55 - Feb 24 with 442 views | Churchman |
| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 16:02 - Feb 24 by pointofblue |
In all honesty, if that is the case then the best thing America could do is withdraw from NATO. |
You know, that wouldn’t surprise me in the least. We kind of think of agreements as sacrosanct. Looking at history, that’s rarely the case.
Interestingly, part of the agreement to guarantee Ukraine as a country, signed by US, U.K. and Russia was that Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons arsenal. Talk about getting mugged off. If they still had that capability and the means to deliver them, I wonder if Putin would have piled in so comfortably? |  | | |
| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 17:25 - Feb 24 with 391 views | pointofblue |
| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 16:55 - Feb 24 by Churchman |
You know, that wouldn’t surprise me in the least. We kind of think of agreements as sacrosanct. Looking at history, that’s rarely the case.
Interestingly, part of the agreement to guarantee Ukraine as a country, signed by US, U.K. and Russia was that Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons arsenal. Talk about getting mugged off. If they still had that capability and the means to deliver them, I wonder if Putin would have piled in so comfortably? |
I doubt Russia would have agreed to Ukraine's independence had it not been for the loss of nuclear weapons, to be honest. |  |
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| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 17:31 - Feb 24 with 379 views | Churchman |
| Isn't the cold hard reality of the Ukraine situation that on 17:25 - Feb 24 by pointofblue |
I doubt Russia would have agreed to Ukraine's independence had it not been for the loss of nuclear weapons, to be honest. |
I agree. Neither would Ukraine have the necessary delivery systems. It was just a theoretical thought.
As it goes, it doesn’t look like Russia has agreed to anyone’s independence anyway. | | | |
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