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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. 17:42 - Apr 25 with 435262 viewsEireannach_gorm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/evidence-ukraine-women-raped-befor





https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-turned-a-bucha-building-into-an-execution-si
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:39 - May 6 with 1392 viewsWeWereZombies

Dilemma

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/dont-want-to-fight-ukrainians-abroad-sla

'Last month, Ukraine decided to suspend consular services for military-age Ukrainian men in a bid to boost its struggling army. Those who left before and after the war began will be affected by the move.

According to the new law, from May 18, men aged between 18 and 60 living abroad will not be able to access key services unless they update their data in their local conscription centres in Ukraine.

For most of these men, getting a new passport, marriage certificate or driver’s licence would ultimately mean abandoning their adopted country for the foreseeable future, as those eligible for military service cannot leave wartime Ukraine.'

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:23 - May 6 with 1339 viewsDJR

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:39 - May 6 by WeWereZombies

Dilemma

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/dont-want-to-fight-ukrainians-abroad-sla

'Last month, Ukraine decided to suspend consular services for military-age Ukrainian men in a bid to boost its struggling army. Those who left before and after the war began will be affected by the move.

According to the new law, from May 18, men aged between 18 and 60 living abroad will not be able to access key services unless they update their data in their local conscription centres in Ukraine.

For most of these men, getting a new passport, marriage certificate or driver’s licence would ultimately mean abandoning their adopted country for the foreseeable future, as those eligible for military service cannot leave wartime Ukraine.'


This also indicates that it is not just weapons that Ukraine is short of.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:07 - May 21 with 1197 viewsEireannach_gorm

Indiscriminate bombing in Belogorivka. More air protection would be good ( maybe Israel could loan them something ).

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:48 - May 24 with 1098 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-wants-ukraine-ceasefire-current-front

Reports today that Putin is keen on a ceasefire based upon current battlelines. Whilst an end to hostilities would be fantastic news, Ukraine would lose territory. Perhaps the biggest issue is how do you stop Russia rebuilding its forces for another crack - they’ve made no secret that they wanted to seize Kiev.

Putin, like Hitler tells lie after lie. Any guarantees of a more permanent peace would surely require an international force on the border. Promises alone cannot be enough, I mean if you can’t trust a malevolent dictator, who can you trust…
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 16:45 - May 24 with 1047 viewsKievthegreat

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:48 - May 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-wants-ukraine-ceasefire-current-front

Reports today that Putin is keen on a ceasefire based upon current battlelines. Whilst an end to hostilities would be fantastic news, Ukraine would lose territory. Perhaps the biggest issue is how do you stop Russia rebuilding its forces for another crack - they’ve made no secret that they wanted to seize Kiev.

Putin, like Hitler tells lie after lie. Any guarantees of a more permanent peace would surely require an international force on the border. Promises alone cannot be enough, I mean if you can’t trust a malevolent dictator, who can you trust…


1938 is calling, it wants it's broken record back.

There was a ceasefire negotiated after the Russian backed breakaway in 2014, Russia couldn't help itself though. It will play the same game if it gets to freeze the conflict again. The West must hold firm and steadfast in it's support of Ukrainian victory. Otherwise you might as well host the negotiations in Munich and use black magic to resurrect Chamberlain to take part.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:32 - May 26 with 939 viewsEireannach_gorm

Two guided missiles hit their target.


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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 10:16 - May 27 with 841 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:32 - May 26 by Eireannach_gorm

Two guided missiles hit their target.





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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:44 - May 27 with 790 viewspointofblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:32 - May 26 by Eireannach_gorm

Two guided missiles hit their target.




I hope to keep the two topics separate overall but at what point does the ICJ start investigating Putin for war crimes? This has lead to the death of civilians for no reason other than a sick power play (as has much of the war).

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:38 - May 27 with 711 viewsBLUEBEAT

You may have noticed increased news about the idea that russia is ready to ‘negotiate’. Given that the Kremlin has broken pretty much every single international treaty it’s ever signed up to, it’s right to be sceptical about such statements. However, as Tymofiy Mylovanov, President of the Kviv School of Economics, argues today, there are other reasons to reject such ‘offers’:

“Reuters reports that Putin wants a ceasefire at current frontlines. Sources say he's ready for peace if he can keep captured territories; otherwise, he'll advance but this is misleading! If he can advance, he surely has the capacity to hold what he's captured

His comments in Belarus this week show typical bad faith. While claiming to be ready for peace, he also said Zelensky isn't a legitimate president. So, he is ready to talk peace with the leader of Ukraine, but not Zelensky!

What kind of "getting to peace" logic is that?

Putin also brought Yanukovich, a former Ukrainian president, to show alongside him in Minsk

The message here is that Yanukovych is the legitimate president.

Yanukovych fled Ukraine to Russia in 2014 after ordering to shoot civilians who were protesting his pro-Russia about-face turnaround. He was later voted out by the parliament of Ukraine.

Putin annexed Crimea and invaded the east of Ukraine shortly thereafter

Since then Putin claimed that the new democratically elected Ukrainian leaders are illegitimate, that the 2014 annexation and invasion were forced, and that there was a coup.

But if anything, it is Putin who has legitimacy problems. He is now in office for the fifth time and his elections have not been internationally recognized. Putin has also killed and persecuted his opposition

Zelensky says Putin is not a representative of Russia, never negotiates in good faith and can't be trusted.

Reuters also says that Putin has no designs for NATO territory and is afraid of domestic mobilization.

Really? Putin continues to kill Russians by thousands a day as cannon fodder. This doesn't appear to be a constraint for now.

And what about removing demarcation buoys with Estonia earlier this week and sending media messages that Russian unilaterally stops recognizing the sea borders with Baltic countries?

Putin did say he doesn't intend to invade Ukraine just before the invasion. So, how much is his word worth? Are people still gullible? Or has everyone stopped believing anything he says?

Zelensky responded to Putin statements by pointing out that Putin wants to undermine consensus and coalition building at the coming peace summit in Switzerland

Indeed, if some countries fall for Putin's "new talk of peace, but not with Zelensky" that will derail the focus on coalition building and unity in Switzerland. This is also why Putin wants to undermine perceived agency of Zelensky.”

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:20 - May 28 with 626 viewsDJR

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:44 - May 27 by pointofblue

I hope to keep the two topics separate overall but at what point does the ICJ start investigating Putin for war crimes? This has lead to the death of civilians for no reason other than a sick power play (as has much of the war).


It is only the ICC which can take actions against individuals as opposed to states.

Concerning the ICJ and the war in Ukraine, on 16 March 2022 the ICJ ordered Russia to "immediately suspend the military operations". The order is binding on Russia, but the ICJ cannot enforce it. This is similar to the order the ICJ recently made against Israel, although the order concerning Israel only related to operations in Rafah.

Concerning the ICC and the war in Ukraine, on 17 March 2023 following an investigation the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin for war crimes. In the case of Israel, the ICC has asked for an arrest warrant for Netanyahu to be issued for war crimes.

The arrest warrant has had an impact on Putin's movements, and the same would be true for Netanyahu.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:54 - May 28 with 587 viewsRoggydem

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:48 - May 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-wants-ukraine-ceasefire-current-front

Reports today that Putin is keen on a ceasefire based upon current battlelines. Whilst an end to hostilities would be fantastic news, Ukraine would lose territory. Perhaps the biggest issue is how do you stop Russia rebuilding its forces for another crack - they’ve made no secret that they wanted to seize Kiev.

Putin, like Hitler tells lie after lie. Any guarantees of a more permanent peace would surely require an international force on the border. Promises alone cannot be enough, I mean if you can’t trust a malevolent dictator, who can you trust…


Russia were never after Kiev, they just wanted the ground they have now.

It was always going to end this way, as there is no way Ukraine could ever beat Russia militarily.

Best thing now for all involved is to try to come to peace terms, and maybe allow some of the area to be neutral territory. No point continuing a war, and bankrupting the whole of europe, for very little gain. We aren't going to beat Russia without NATO boots on the ground, and that then presents a whole new problem.

Also atrocities committed on both side. Maybe time now to try and put an end, before the youth of both countries is completely decimated.

For some reason talking of peace is controversial now though.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:58 - May 28 with 573 viewspointofblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:20 - May 28 by DJR

It is only the ICC which can take actions against individuals as opposed to states.

Concerning the ICJ and the war in Ukraine, on 16 March 2022 the ICJ ordered Russia to "immediately suspend the military operations". The order is binding on Russia, but the ICJ cannot enforce it. This is similar to the order the ICJ recently made against Israel, although the order concerning Israel only related to operations in Rafah.

Concerning the ICC and the war in Ukraine, on 17 March 2023 following an investigation the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin for war crimes. In the case of Israel, the ICC has asked for an arrest warrant for Netanyahu to be issued for war crimes.

The arrest warrant has had an impact on Putin's movements, and the same would be true for Netanyahu.
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Thank you. With it being issued over a year ago I had forgotten they had issued a warrant.

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:51 - May 29 with 463 viewsEireannach_gorm

This could be an interesting development and big pressure on US to allow it.



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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 15:21 - May 30 with 339 viewsEireannach_gorm

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 15:32 - May 30 with 323 viewsbaxterbasics

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:51 - May 29 by Eireannach_gorm

This could be an interesting development and big pressure on US to allow it.





Really interesting to see the EU more hawkish on this than the US. Not how it's always been in the past. Funny how for all the negative talk from Trump regarding NATO (and the noise about him being too cosy with Putin), it's Biden that is so weak.

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 15:42 - May 30 with 299 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:54 - May 28 by Roggydem

Russia were never after Kiev, they just wanted the ground they have now.

It was always going to end this way, as there is no way Ukraine could ever beat Russia militarily.

Best thing now for all involved is to try to come to peace terms, and maybe allow some of the area to be neutral territory. No point continuing a war, and bankrupting the whole of europe, for very little gain. We aren't going to beat Russia without NATO boots on the ground, and that then presents a whole new problem.

Also atrocities committed on both side. Maybe time now to try and put an end, before the youth of both countries is completely decimated.

For some reason talking of peace is controversial now though.
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1) there would be no atrocities at all if Russia hadn’t invaded. Every civilian death is on Russia as the foreign aggressor.
2) they didn’t want Kiev? Only if you ignore their attempts to capture Kiev at the outset of the war.
3) clearly you have no clue about economics or scale. The EU is the second largest economy in the world, Russia has an economy smaller than Italy, it would bankrupt a long time before Europe. Especially as Russia has been cut off from most of the capital markets in the world.

Fantastic both-sidesing.
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