| This weeks by elections 10:17 - Jul 18 with 3490 views | Pinewoodblue |
Anyone care to predict the outcome.
Obviously Tories get a bashing, but it maybe due more to Tories not voting.
Will go for a 3 way split. 1 Lab; 1 LibDem; 1 Tory.
Uxbridge will be the Labour gain, candidate doing a lot of u turning especially on Ulez which he previously supported and now opposes. |  |
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| This weeks by elections on 21:15 - Jul 18 with 452 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This weeks by elections on 21:14 - Jul 18 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Yes, I know, but we also do, don't we? Although the interesting point there is that the "commands the confidence of the House" rubric implies that it should be MPs who elect their leader, not Tory Party members.
One change is understandable, but two, when the Party membership had made such a bad job of the previous choice, is really not acceptable.
Of course, if it hadn't been possible for Tory MPs to depose Johnson without triggering a General Election then there is the very real possibility that they wouldn't have held him to any sort of account, so I suppose I should be grateful for that one, small, mercy. |
Our system is such a good one because it carries with it a tradition and expectation of integrity and honour, enforced by peer pressure.
Boris Johnson broke that, when he realised that if he could normalise ignoring all of those conventions, nobody could do a thing about it. |  | | |
| This weeks by elections on 22:14 - Jul 18 with 411 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This weeks by elections on 21:14 - Jul 18 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Yes, I know, but we also do, don't we? Although the interesting point there is that the "commands the confidence of the House" rubric implies that it should be MPs who elect their leader, not Tory Party members.
One change is understandable, but two, when the Party membership had made such a bad job of the previous choice, is really not acceptable.
Of course, if it hadn't been possible for Tory MPs to depose Johnson without triggering a General Election then there is the very real possibility that they wouldn't have held him to any sort of account, so I suppose I should be grateful for that one, small, mercy. |
Up until William Hague, it was the MP’s who elected the leader, but this changed due to the removal of Thatcher by her elected MP’s.
Also worth remembering that Labour MP’s voted to remove Corbyn in 2016 but he went to court to ensure he was on the ballot for the members to re elect him. Which they did.
There is a case for saying that in opposition it goes to the members but if in government then it should only be voted on by MP’s. [Post edited 18 Jul 2023 22:16]
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