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The xxxx party backs tenants’ right to buy social housing to “extend wealth ownership”, but does not support rent controls.
Now I must admit this had passed me by but an article in yesterday's Times alerted me to this.
And the answer is the Labour Party.
Now I don't know what others think (and I fully understand people's desire to own their own home) but it is not clear to me that the tenure of one's property is at the root of the UK's housing issues. Instead, lack of supply, and especially lack of affordable housing, is the real issue, something that could be made worse by such a policy. And whilst those able to take advantage of the right to buy will benefit, what about those not in such a fortunate position because they are in the private sector or can't afford to buy, especially if rent controls are to be ruled out?
EDIT: I was wrong to imply tenure is not an issue for those at the mercy of private landlords, given security of tenure has long been abolished.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 13:51 - Jul 31 with 1202 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 13:40 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
It’s totally unreasonable if the landlord is being subjected to months of vile abuse, harassment, sleeplessness and live next door to the nightmare tenant/s, as happened to me (luckily only once in 10 years). Nor would they have been made homeless by a swifter eviction.
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My only recent experience of the rental market is student accommodation, and to my mind it is a racket.
My daughter lived in two properties, which were barely habitable, and for the privilege had to pay exorbitant rents for the whole year.
In my days, you only paid in term time, the deposit was nominal and there were never guarantors. It was also never an issue getting the deposit back, when these days you know the landlord will find some excuse for withholding it, or clawing some of it back. And don't talk to me about agents who make a very easy living out of it all.
EDIT: I forgot to say that when I rented as a student, and when first living in London where I came for work, I didn't have to pay anything or separately for gas, electricity etc.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 14:03 - Jul 31 with 1174 views
My only recent experience of the rental market is student accommodation, and to my mind it is a racket.
My daughter lived in two properties, which were barely habitable, and for the privilege had to pay exorbitant rents for the whole year.
In my days, you only paid in term time, the deposit was nominal and there were never guarantors. It was also never an issue getting the deposit back, when these days you know the landlord will find some excuse for withholding it, or clawing some of it back. And don't talk to me about agents who make a very easy living out of it all.
EDIT: I forgot to say that when I rented as a student, and when first living in London where I came for work, I didn't have to pay anything or separately for gas, electricity etc.
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Two sides to every story isn’t it, but 99/100 times on here you only hear the tenants’ side.
The person who was able to negotiate a way out of the nightmare situation I described in my previous post, without it going to court, was an agent who also happened to be a lawyer (she also found them a nightmare to deal with). I stuck with the agency after that, though I agree some of their prices have become ridiculous.
Tory or Labour policy? on 13:40 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
It’s totally unreasonable if the landlord is being subjected to months of vile abuse, harassment, sleeplessness and live next door to the nightmare tenant/s, as happened to me (luckily only once in 10 years). Nor would they have been made homeless by a swifter eviction.
[Post edited 31 Jul 2023 13:42]
Unpleasant as I'm sure that was, whether you like it or not evicting someone is the process by which people become homeless and the state has to regulate it as such.
If you could get a special speedy eviction just by stating that your tenant was a horrible bastard then every landlord looking for a speedy eviction would do it, you actually need processes for demonstrating patterns of anti-social behaviour that would justify an eviction and of course those things take time.
Tory or Labour policy? on 14:13 - Jul 31 by jayessess
Unpleasant as I'm sure that was, whether you like it or not evicting someone is the process by which people become homeless and the state has to regulate it as such.
If you could get a special speedy eviction just by stating that your tenant was a horrible bastard then every landlord looking for a speedy eviction would do it, you actually need processes for demonstrating patterns of anti-social behaviour that would justify an eviction and of course those things take time.
Your persistence in refusing to see both sides of the issue or anything you don’t want to see is typical of the one dimensional attitude on the issue on sm.
I already said that they wouldn’t have been made homeless, they owned their own vacant house only 12 miles away that they could have moved into. It was a matter of convenience for them and they were just out to cause trouble.
Nor have I asked for existing eviction procedures to be made easier for landlords. I simply want them not to be made even harder than they are, which would certainly result in me taking the annexe off the long-term rental market.
Tory or Labour policy? on 14:26 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
Your persistence in refusing to see both sides of the issue or anything you don’t want to see is typical of the one dimensional attitude on the issue on sm.
I already said that they wouldn’t have been made homeless, they owned their own vacant house only 12 miles away that they could have moved into. It was a matter of convenience for them and they were just out to cause trouble.
Nor have I asked for existing eviction procedures to be made easier for landlords. I simply want them not to be made even harder than they are, which would certainly result in me taking the annexe off the long-term rental market.
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Not actually disputed your version of events in any way, just talked about the obligations of the state in general.
I can very much see that this would have been an unpleasant situation for you, I don't agree that your incredibly unusual case (do many affluent home owners roam the country looking to rent as a means of "causing trouble"?) is something around which governments can or should write legislation regulating the private rental sector.
Tory or Labour policy? on 14:43 - Jul 31 by jayessess
Not actually disputed your version of events in any way, just talked about the obligations of the state in general.
I can very much see that this would have been an unpleasant situation for you, I don't agree that your incredibly unusual case (do many affluent home owners roam the country looking to rent as a means of "causing trouble"?) is something around which governments can or should write legislation regulating the private rental sector.
Please see edit to my previous post.
Yes, very unusual and rather sad situation. A young lad, early twenties, first time away from home, had been partnered up and was being manipulated by a woman twice his age.
Tory or Labour policy? on 14:03 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
Two sides to every story isn’t it, but 99/100 times on here you only hear the tenants’ side.
The person who was able to negotiate a way out of the nightmare situation I described in my previous post, without it going to court, was an agent who also happened to be a lawyer (she also found them a nightmare to deal with). I stuck with the agency after that, though I agree some of their prices have become ridiculous.
err, no
But I have seen vulnerable people evicted after years of living somewhere because it suits the landlord. People who are ejected from their community, for what.,
It's time these pimps and parasites were removed. Starting by introducing the way other European countries deal with renting. It cannot be right that such a basic human need can be subject to the whims of some grasping parasite.
Go and make your money doing a worthwhile job, not working as a pimp.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 15:26 - Jul 31 with 1052 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 15:16 - Jul 31 by HARRY10
err, no
But I have seen vulnerable people evicted after years of living somewhere because it suits the landlord. People who are ejected from their community, for what.,
It's time these pimps and parasites were removed. Starting by introducing the way other European countries deal with renting. It cannot be right that such a basic human need can be subject to the whims of some grasping parasite.
Go and make your money doing a worthwhile job, not working as a pimp.
You're referring to me as a pimp because I let out the lovely annexe to my home at a knock-down rent until such time as I might need it for a carer?
"Classsy" as ever H.
And how many times do I have to say it - "nor have I asked for existing eviction procedures to be made easier for landlords. I simply want them not to be made even harder than they are, which would certainly result in me taking the annexe off the long-term rental market."
Tory or Labour policy? on 15:26 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
You're referring to me as a pimp because I let out the lovely annexe to my home at a knock-down rent until such time as I might need it for a carer?
"Classsy" as ever H.
And how many times do I have to say it - "nor have I asked for existing eviction procedures to be made easier for landlords. I simply want them not to be made even harder than they are, which would certainly result in me taking the annexe off the long-term rental market."
Yep, no call for that at all.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 15:48 - Jul 31 with 1018 views
When it comes to slum landlords, this was a great song, inspired by, and including a mention of, Nicholas Van Hoogstraten.
Incidentally, Van Hoogstaten built, but never completed, the largest private house in Britain for a century. It lies near the Uckfield off the A22 and can be seen from the road above the trees. Indeed, I spotted the golden dome only last week on the drive back from Eastbourne.
When it comes to slum landlords, this was a great song, inspired by, and including a mention of, Nicholas Van Hoogstraten.
Incidentally, Van Hoogstaten built, but never completed, the largest private house in Britain for a century. It lies near the Uckfield off the A22 and can be seen from the road above the trees. Indeed, I spotted the golden dome only last week on the drive back from Eastbourne.
wow i had no idea van hoogstraten was still alive.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Tory or Labour policy? on 16:05 - Jul 31 with 949 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 14:03 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
Two sides to every story isn’t it, but 99/100 times on here you only hear the tenants’ side.
The person who was able to negotiate a way out of the nightmare situation I described in my previous post, without it going to court, was an agent who also happened to be a lawyer (she also found them a nightmare to deal with). I stuck with the agency after that, though I agree some of their prices have become ridiculous.
The student rental market strikes me as an area where anyone with any professional qualifications is very rare, if my experience is anything to go by.
I can't really comment on the residential lettings market, but speaking as a lawyer, my view is that all forms of estate agency involve fairly easy money for not necessarily much effort.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 16:08 - Jul 31 with 936 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 15:26 - Jul 31 by Ryorry
You're referring to me as a pimp because I let out the lovely annexe to my home at a knock-down rent until such time as I might need it for a carer?
"Classsy" as ever H.
And how many times do I have to say it - "nor have I asked for existing eviction procedures to be made easier for landlords. I simply want them not to be made even harder than they are, which would certainly result in me taking the annexe off the long-term rental market."
I’m amazed more people don’t have him on ignore. He has nothing interesting to say, just the same old tedious carchphrases interlaced with a touch of bigotry.
He’s the oddball who drinks alone in the local pub that you have to avoid making eye contact with, unless you want to get lumbered with his drunken ramblings.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 16:30 - Jul 31 with 908 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 15:16 - Jul 31 by HARRY10
err, no
But I have seen vulnerable people evicted after years of living somewhere because it suits the landlord. People who are ejected from their community, for what.,
It's time these pimps and parasites were removed. Starting by introducing the way other European countries deal with renting. It cannot be right that such a basic human need can be subject to the whims of some grasping parasite.
Go and make your money doing a worthwhile job, not working as a pimp.
I musta spent 25 years renting prior to buying a house 5 or 6 years ago, and in places as diverse as Haverhill, Switzerland, France and more recently Ireland. I find landlords are like everyone else in life, some good some bad. I've had horrendous landlords ( especially in Haverhill) who I've refused to pay rent too and have been taken to court threatened by 'heavies' etc. While others ( the Ryorry type I imagine)I've become good friends with and am still in contact with now. I'm sure most things in life are not as black an white as all landlords are pimps Harry
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Tory or Labour policy? on 16:32 - Jul 31 with 894 views
Tory or Labour policy? on 16:30 - Jul 31 by leitrimblue
I musta spent 25 years renting prior to buying a house 5 or 6 years ago, and in places as diverse as Haverhill, Switzerland, France and more recently Ireland. I find landlords are like everyone else in life, some good some bad. I've had horrendous landlords ( especially in Haverhill) who I've refused to pay rent too and have been taken to court threatened by 'heavies' etc. While others ( the Ryorry type I imagine)I've become good friends with and am still in contact with now. I'm sure most things in life are not as black an white as all landlords are pimps Harry
This issue always gets totally polarised on sm; it usually ends up with me getting abuse from someone or other, & the only reason I continue posting on it is that I feel an obligation to provide a view "from the other side of the garden fence".
What people don't realise or have forgotten is that I've actually only owned (or joint-owned) my own home for about 15 years of my adult life (inc the last 10). The other 35+ years were spent renting, including some from Rachman-type landlords - vermin-ridden mouldy bed-sits like DJR described his daughter's quarters, a damp 2nd floor "flat" with large holes in the floorboards where the carpet was the only thing that stopped you falling through; a house deemed unfit for human habitation; house shares etc etc. so I've experienced many situations as a tenant too.
Good landlords are actually desperate to hang on to good tenants. The only thing tenants have to do to secure their tenancy for the forseeable long-term future as far as I'm concerned is to stick to the terms of the Tenancy Agreement.
Yes, I too became long-term friends with some tenants after they left - two individuals in particular who still live locally (left to get married & move to bigger places in both cases).
How on earth does Greater London keep a safe number of key/emergency services workers such as NHS, fire, police, teachers, social workers etc?
I imagine most basic grades in those professions are on a similar salary to the guy in the link, and finding affordable accommodation for themselves looks well-nigh impossible from what I've read.
How on earth does Greater London keep a safe number of key/emergency services workers such as NHS, fire, police, teachers, social workers etc?
I imagine most basic grades in those professions are on a similar salary to the guy in the link, and finding affordable accommodation for themselves looks well-nigh impossible from what I've read.
I often think that too.
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Tory or Labour policy? on 16:37 - Aug 1 with 581 views
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