| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:07 - Sep 22 with 925 views | Vegtablue |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 16:35 - Sep 22 by Grandpa |
West Ham have never been champions of England
Everton won a European cup winners' cup, NOT one of the primary 2 European crowns |
Aha I stand corrected. I don't know much about the cup winners' cup of yesteryear I must admit. I once thought it was the equivalent to the Super Cup, but later figured it couldn't be because Arsenal have won it. More recently I guessed it was a particularly selective tournament for domestic champions, yet it can't be that either if West Ham have never won the league. I suppose google is my friend here! |  | |  |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:45 - Sep 22 with 902 views | MK1 |
Depends what you class as "Big"? A big club for the Championship on recent history. Not big 6, but a bigger club than some in the Premier League. |  | | |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:45 - Sep 22 with 902 views | factual_blue |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 16:38 - Sep 22 by Grandpa |
Leeds won a European cup winners' cup - NOT one of the 2 primary European crowns |
They've convinced themselves they won the European Cup in 1975, as they were beaten by corruption. Apparently.
Ironic, given revie's supposed involvement in bribery.
Although I had pretty convincing tales that it was true. |  |
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| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:53 - Sep 22 with 884 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:06 - Sep 22 by Grandpa |
But not a 'great' club |
I’d take that 30 years over ours! |  | | |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 08:31 - Sep 23 with 817 views | WeWereZombies |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 17:07 - Sep 22 by Vegtablue |
Aha I stand corrected. I don't know much about the cup winners' cup of yesteryear I must admit. I once thought it was the equivalent to the Super Cup, but later figured it couldn't be because Arsenal have won it. More recently I guessed it was a particularly selective tournament for domestic champions, yet it can't be that either if West Ham have never won the league. I suppose google is my friend here! |
The Cup Winner's Cup was a big deal before the Premiership (as was the F A Cup), you had to win your nation's primary knockout competition and then get through a number of knockout games in Europe. At its inception it was a much bigger tournament than the Inter City Fairs Cup (which became the UEFA Cup) which seemed more like a pre-season invitation tournament that somehow carried on and got in the way during the season. But when it became the UEFA Cup they tightened up the criteria for entering and a lot more competitive European sides were involved. So the European Cup took notice and decided to replace themselves with the Champions League.
Granpa - leaving Arsenal out of the list of 'big' clubs might get a few seal claps but it invalidates the whole list in my opinion. |  |
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| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 10:02 - Sep 23 with 806 views | Churchman |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 16:56 - Sep 22 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Since the 1990s they have won the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup twice(runners up once), played in the Champions League. They have played at Wembley 8 times in that same period, winning the Championship Playoffs twice.
I'd say they are a big club these days. |
They’re a successful mid sized club. You could describe Ipswich as that in 1982. Forest fall in the same category for me. My list of 10 big clubs is:
Arsenal
Spurs
Chelsea
Man U
Man C
Liverpool
Everton
Newcastle
Sunlun
Leeds
There’s an argument to include Villa, but I’ll stick to the 10. After Villa mid sized in no order
Leicester
Forest
Sheffield W
Sheffield Utd
Derby
Wolves
Brum
Scum
ITFC
Palace
Brighton
Cov
Southampton
WBA
Middlesbrough
Portsmouth
No real logic to this - just an opinion based on dodgy criteria/instinct. [Post edited 23 Sep 2023 10:03]
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| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 10:41 - Sep 23 with 792 views | Grandpa |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 08:31 - Sep 23 by WeWereZombies |
The Cup Winner's Cup was a big deal before the Premiership (as was the F A Cup), you had to win your nation's primary knockout competition and then get through a number of knockout games in Europe. At its inception it was a much bigger tournament than the Inter City Fairs Cup (which became the UEFA Cup) which seemed more like a pre-season invitation tournament that somehow carried on and got in the way during the season. But when it became the UEFA Cup they tightened up the criteria for entering and a lot more competitive European sides were involved. So the European Cup took notice and decided to replace themselves with the Champions League.
Granpa - leaving Arsenal out of the list of 'big' clubs might get a few seal claps but it invalidates the whole list in my opinion. |
Again, based only on being...
English champions AND
1 each of either of what are currently considered the 2 primary of BOTH domestic & European Cup competitions...
there's 8 who have achieved 'greatness'
Obviously, there are many other 'big' clubs by size of stadium/fan base/average crowds or number of trophies, but...
English champions AND
FA Cup or League Cup winners AND
European Cup or UEFA Cup winners...
it's just 8 clubs & the Town area among them, let's enjoy that! | | | |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 10:50 - Sep 23 with 788 views | MK1 |
| Well the Leicester manager thinks they are a big club... on 10:02 - Sep 23 by Churchman |
They’re a successful mid sized club. You could describe Ipswich as that in 1982. Forest fall in the same category for me. My list of 10 big clubs is:
Arsenal
Spurs
Chelsea
Man U
Man C
Liverpool
Everton
Newcastle
Sunlun
Leeds
There’s an argument to include Villa, but I’ll stick to the 10. After Villa mid sized in no order
Leicester
Forest
Sheffield W
Sheffield Utd
Derby
Wolves
Brum
Scum
ITFC
Palace
Brighton
Cov
Southampton
WBA
Middlesbrough
Portsmouth
No real logic to this - just an opinion based on dodgy criteria/instinct. [Post edited 23 Sep 2023 10:03]
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I would include West Ham as mid sized. | | | |
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