| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? 13:44 - Oct 5 with 4439 views | NthQldITFC |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67017021
The sort of outlandish jumps in the data we are seeing hardly seem possible with the supposed inertia in the Earth's biosphere, and yet there they are.
As ever, the uninformed will say, "it's only half a degree" or "goody, some nice warm weather", but the ramifications are mind-blowing.
These are the sort of hard natural constraints that our belief in the rightness and permanence of perpetual economic growth are coming up against now, and it won't be the economy that wins. |  |
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:44 - Oct 6 with 779 views | Rimsy |
| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 10:33 - Oct 6 by DanTheMan |
"and it's not as clear cut as we are constantly being told"
It really is. And so far you've just spouted nonsense arguments with nothing to back it up and when challenged you've moved onto a different argument.
Honestly thought people had moved past this. |
We can all post links supporting our views and it proves nothing. Here's one: read the whole article. You'll still all have your own take, but at least see there's more than one point of view.
https://ballotpedia.org/Opposing_views_of_climate_change_theory#:~:text=Some%20r
And this one on why it's important to be more open minded on the subject.
https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/climate-dogma-dangers/ |  |
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:48 - Oct 6 with 759 views | HankScorpio |
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| I expect nothing from you, except to die and be a very cheap funeral. |
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:54 - Oct 6 with 737 views | WeWereZombies |
| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:35 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue |
There is a chance that the UK and western Europe could experience localised cooling, especially in the winters. But as a result of global warming. There's a lot of concern that if the recent, unprecedented weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) continues, it could effectively shut off the Gulf Stream (or significantly weaken it beyond a point of return). It's unlikely to trigger an ice age, but it could potentially feel like it had in the UK if we lose the warmer water and air brought to us by the Gulf Stream. It'd be a bit of a game changer. We're talking decades away, but it wasn't that long ago that we were being warned of global warming back in the 80s and 90s. Most of what was predicted is coming true. |
Hasn't the recession of North Atlantic Drift been happening for a few decades ? There is practically no effect in the North Sea nowadays, and it certainly feels like our winters are getting worse on the West Coast.
Another bogus piece of climate change denial I have seen up close recently is the guff about glaciers increasing. There is one, the Perito Moreno on the Argentine / Chile border, but that is increasing in size due to increased rainfall driven by climate change. It sits on high ground between the Atlantic and the Pacific so catches it even more now. |  |
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:57 - Oct 6 with 719 views | StokieBlue |
That is once again nonsense.
A fully published and peer-reviewed study proves far more than just posting links to support ones view.
Your first link isn't a study, in fact it doesn't prove anything more than some people disagree that climate change is happening.
The second link says nothing at all with respect to actual scientific data.
If you want to support your position lets see some scientific and peer reviewed studies.
The articles you have presented are nothing but more "but both sides" nonsense.
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 11:58 - Oct 6 with 717 views | NthQldITFC |
I mean, I only skimmed it but doesn't the first one essentially agree that climate change is man made and fits the models, and the second one just basically says keep an open mind about everything (which is good advice).
Neither present anything, not anything, which casts even the slightest doubt on the essentially universal acceptance of the size, timeframe and cause of this existential, quite probably terminal 'issue' for nature and human society as we know it.
But then, you know that don't you?
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 13:42 - Oct 6 with 667 views | Herbivore |
| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 08:54 - Oct 6 by Rimsy |
I remember in the early 80's 'scientists' saying we were heading for the next ice age, then we were all going to fry because of the hole in the ozone layer (all which were backed up by statistics) Current narrative is climate change (note they've dropped global warming). The gullability of people astounds me. Now that's not to say I'm not in favour of cutting emissions for better air quality. |
Yeah, those fools listening to scientific consensus. |  |
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 16:03 - Oct 6 with 632 views | DJR |
| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 21:39 - Oct 5 by Daninthecampo |
36C in Andalucia today and an October record of 38.2 in Cordoba on Sunday. Stupid temps for October! |
They're predicting 40 degrees at the weekend in Spain, and a tweet from the Spanish Met Office suggests there could be 16 consecutive days of record temperatures.
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| Anybody else think the entire globe is about to go pop? on 16:26 - Oct 6 with 612 views | DanTheMan |
This is just a consensus argument.
There is already a consensus, this has been studied countless times.
https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm
Some of us can post links that show actual science rather than a wiki about American politics and the other one has this sort of nonsense in.
Nevertheless, the claim that climate change is solely caused by humans has achieved dogma-like status. Alternative views are dismissed out of hand. Yet, the essence of science is to gain knowledge, even if the process does not end in the desired result. Science is so wide and complex that it requires an open – and often contentious – debate, based on mutual respect and tolerance.
People writing about science who don't have a clue what they're talking about. All the other non human sources have been exhausted. People have looked at them and have been ruled out, repeatedly. It's just another typical line pulled out by people who start at the point of us not causing it and failing to actually explain what's happening.
Nature is rarely stable. Its core principle is adaptation and evolution. As any geologist will tell you, climate change is a regular occurrence on earth. Periods of warming and cooling happen frequently. There are many reasons for these changes: fluctuations in solar radiation, the earth’s angle of rotation, increasing heat in the magma under the earth’s surface (which causes more frequent earthquakes and stronger volcanic eruptions, while also warming the oceans which release more CO2). The cycles are sometimes gradual but can be abrupt, as the sudden extinction of the dinosaurs proves.
Climate change is normal. It is certainly preferable to face slow, gradual changes than rapid ones. But such shifts in climate are not necessarily in our hands.
What's amazing about this bit is they then list off possible other causes that have already been ruled out.
And surprise surprise, it's not written by a climate scientist but Prince Michael of Lichenstein who as far as I can see has absolutely no credentials to properly comment in this area. His thoughts on the intricacies of climate models hold us much weight as mine - sweet fúck all. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 20:42]
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