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The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy 09:25 - Nov 23 with 5211 viewsElderGrizzly

An openly anti-Islam, racist, anti-immigration, climate change denying party is going to be the biggest party in the Dutch parliament

Buckle up...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/nov/23/dutch-election-results-geert-
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The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy on 15:45 - Nov 23 with 526 viewsPinewoodblue

The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy on 15:26 - Nov 23 by ClareBlue

I wonder if we might eventually move away from just vilifying those that vote for these parties and try and understand the reason why these messages are winning votes in nearly every European Country. Every Country has a hard core of bigots and xenophobic people but they have historically been marginalised in political power. But every Country has seen people who would not usually align with these messages vote for them. Including historically Liberal countries like Sweden. These parties loose support very quickly if people feel they are being heard by the mainstream but there are whole sections of populations who feel they are not part of a Liberal agenda that is being imposed on them and they live in the communities that compete for housing and healthcare with migrant populations which governments have failed them on in just about every country in Europe.
This result is a reflection on mainstream politics failures. Failures to recognise they have become elite and disconnected, failure to have reasoned debate and just label people who aren't with their agenda, failure to provide policies that house people and provide for their health and security.
But as per Brexit and election of Victor in Hungary and the Polish judiciary interference and rise of right wing in Germany and Netherlands and Sweden and Italy, there will be no self-awareness, just vilification and judgement of the voters.
The leaders with these messages become irrelevant eith about 4 perc support when you stop the soundbites and address the issues.


European parliamentary election in June could be interesting.


Dutch electoral system is weird could easily have been written for a Monty Python sketch.

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The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy on 15:52 - Nov 23 with 512 viewsHerbivore

The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy on 15:26 - Nov 23 by ClareBlue

I wonder if we might eventually move away from just vilifying those that vote for these parties and try and understand the reason why these messages are winning votes in nearly every European Country. Every Country has a hard core of bigots and xenophobic people but they have historically been marginalised in political power. But every Country has seen people who would not usually align with these messages vote for them. Including historically Liberal countries like Sweden. These parties loose support very quickly if people feel they are being heard by the mainstream but there are whole sections of populations who feel they are not part of a Liberal agenda that is being imposed on them and they live in the communities that compete for housing and healthcare with migrant populations which governments have failed them on in just about every country in Europe.
This result is a reflection on mainstream politics failures. Failures to recognise they have become elite and disconnected, failure to have reasoned debate and just label people who aren't with their agenda, failure to provide policies that house people and provide for their health and security.
But as per Brexit and election of Victor in Hungary and the Polish judiciary interference and rise of right wing in Germany and Netherlands and Sweden and Italy, there will be no self-awareness, just vilification and judgement of the voters.
The leaders with these messages become irrelevant eith about 4 perc support when you stop the soundbites and address the issues.


Mainstream political parties have found it pretty expedient to just blame everything on immigrants, it's no surprise people then start to buy into extreme anti-immigrant rhetoric. In the UK the fringe parties have struggled to get much traction lately because the Tories are basically representing that fringe now.

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The Netherlands just got a huge dose of right wing crazy on 18:16 - Nov 23 with 442 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Be interesting to see where he might get his majority from though, common sense may win out in parliament

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