| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? 13:45 - Dec 17 with 11638 views | unstableblue |
Seen a few threads on potential signings and what business we can do.
But I wonder just what budget and ambition the ownership group are going to sanction, and critically what does FFP do in terms of setting the boundaries.
Are they going to back McKennas higher end targets, as in Premier Ready players who’ll also drive automatic or at worst via play-offs promotion?
I wonder if the jam packed attendances, cup run, merchandise and the guarantee of Play-off attendance revenue and TV, will allow us to be more bullish?
Is there any element of gambling to get us over the line? I sense not.
In short this points lead is significant. A strong striker, AM (Broadhead, Burns and Omari are brilliant, but sometimes we’ve needed more, like yesterday), CM… it could be the difference.
Do we go for it?? Or are the FFP risks and concerns on squad cohesion too big of a concern??
I sense you’d need to let a few go. |  |
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| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:10 - Dec 19 with 514 views | jayessess |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 09:52 - Dec 19 by tractorboy1978 |
Re our budget - I do think you have to apply the context of us being somewhere in the region of 7-13 points clear of 3rd place by the 1st Jan too. Realistically we will never go into a mid season window with such a fantastic opportunity to get promoted. Imagine Hirst picking up an injury in March that keeps him out for a month, we drop a few points and miss out. I can't see us taking that risk personally and I think we will really push ourselves to land the right player. |
I suppose the big question is what "really pushing ourselves" looks like exactly.
Leeds spent £10.5m up front on Piroe but I don't think we'd go that high and I don't think Piroe improves our first eleven much, if at all.
I don't think we'd sell Hirst for anything less than £7-8m at this point, would we go that high to get someone at his same level? [Post edited 19 Dec 2023 10:34]
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| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:27 - Dec 19 with 472 views | NthQldITFC |
The thing in our favour, which I think some of us overlook in these discussions, is that a player isn't a robot of fixed capabilities and a commensurate value to everybody. An £8m player in February doesn't necessarily cost £8m in January.
All players have a performance range, and an adjustable skillset - some work well at one club, and poorly at another - some work well in one role but haven't yet been used in that role. A lot of it is down to personality, confidence and relationships with coaches and teammates.
A good coach can potentially pick up a player for £2m and turn him into an £8m player in a couple of months. Not saying it will always happen, but I'd trust KMc and his team to have a better chance of spotting that player and doing that transformation more than virtually any other manager. |  |
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| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:29 - Dec 19 with 463 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:10 - Dec 19 by jayessess |
I suppose the big question is what "really pushing ourselves" looks like exactly.
Leeds spent £10.5m up front on Piroe but I don't think we'd go that high and I don't think Piroe improves our first eleven much, if at all.
I don't think we'd sell Hirst for anything less than £7-8m at this point, would we go that high to get someone at his same level? [Post edited 19 Dec 2023 10:34]
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I'd suspect we are looking at around half that £7m-£8m for a striker (up front anyway). As you correctly point out, we are going to need to be a bit clever which is why I think we may end up abroad. |  | | |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:37 - Dec 19 with 449 views | jayessess |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:27 - Dec 19 by NthQldITFC |
The thing in our favour, which I think some of us overlook in these discussions, is that a player isn't a robot of fixed capabilities and a commensurate value to everybody. An £8m player in February doesn't necessarily cost £8m in January.
All players have a performance range, and an adjustable skillset - some work well at one club, and poorly at another - some work well in one role but haven't yet been used in that role. A lot of it is down to personality, confidence and relationships with coaches and teammates.
A good coach can potentially pick up a player for £2m and turn him into an £8m player in a couple of months. Not saying it will always happen, but I'd trust KMc and his team to have a better chance of spotting that player and doing that transformation more than virtually any other manager. |
I think that's ultimately what we'll end up doing, but I think that's our ordinary recruitment style, rather than an extraordinary push/roll of the dice to get us over the line. | |
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| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:50 - Dec 19 with 429 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 10:37 - Dec 19 by jayessess |
I think that's ultimately what we'll end up doing, but I think that's our ordinary recruitment style, rather than an extraordinary push/roll of the dice to get us over the line. |
Ordinary recruitment style but higher stakes I'd say. If we end up having a window where we spend £5m-£8m, that's something we haven't seen since the early Evans years. I just hope it goes better than that did! | | | |
| Do you think Ashton and the US owners are going to roll the dice in January?? on 11:20 - Dec 19 with 361 views | StokieBlue |
I guess we do have some leeway here.
If we went big (let's say 15m) and get promoted then balancing the books is no longer an issue. If we don't get promoted then it's highly likely Davis will be on his way so we will cover those losses fairly easily with that sale.
We aren't realistically going to hold on to him if we don't get promoted.
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