| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! 15:55 - Jan 29 with 4893 views | NthQldITFC |
The T*ries really have overseen the dismantling of the fabric of this country, haven't they, the sort of things they always used to supposedly be the champions of. All is fair game, it seems, in the corrupt, kleptomaniacal pursuit of T*ry pocket-lining. |  |
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| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 22:21 - Jan 29 with 1296 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 22:17 - Jan 29 by bluelagos |
Will be on catch up.
Includes a copper who raped a drunk young girl, then claimed she raped him but his PTSD meant he couldn't fight her off.
He was paid £180k whilst suspended, allowed to take early retirement on medical grounds and was then found not guilty of misconduct and is now free to work for the police again.
Utter scum and in the eyes of the law, an innocent man. |
What is the evidence for what actually happened? Sounds like a due process took place. Has a due process also taken place to demonstrate her claim? |  | | |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 22:26 - Jan 29 with 1291 views | bluelagos |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 22:21 - Jan 29 by redrickstuhaart |
What is the evidence for what actually happened? Sounds like a due process took place. Has a due process also taken place to demonstrate her claim? |
If you watch the program and you can see for yourself. One of the investigating officers called his defence "farcical". He wasn't wrong. |  |
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| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 23:07 - Jan 29 with 1239 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 22:26 - Jan 29 by bluelagos |
If you watch the program and you can see for yourself. One of the investigating officers called his defence "farcical". He wasn't wrong. |
I am not going to watch it. Better things to do.
Just interested to see the basis on which one side is accepted at face value and the other not, when only one has been through a due process. | | | |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 00:02 - Jan 30 with 1207 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 16:02 - Jan 29 by HotShotHamish |
How is employing large numbers of new police officers 'dismantling the fabric of our country'?
It must be tough being so blinkered by political hatred that you felt the need to post such drivel |
Please look past the headlines you’re seeing |  |
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| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 15:38 - Jan 30 with 1078 views | brad548ye |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 18:20 - Jan 29 by bluelagos |
Of course every barrel of rotten apples has the odd good one.
I actually know a few current/ex plod including one currently serving in a PSD unit - she can tell you some stories.
I do actually feel for the decent ones - working in an organisation that is institutionally corrupt can't be much fun. But those who defend the police without recognising the cultural failings - especially the "bluecode" - are as much a problem as the bent coppers themselves.
Too many apologists and not enough willing to challenge the culture of cover up. |
Sorry Bluelagos but i have to disagree with you there. There are far far more good officers than bad.
The thing is that when officers are caught out it makes news, big news and quite rightly so as we hold officers to a higher level of accountability considering the purpose of their job and the powers they have over other members of the public.
It's not not unheard of but how many stories get out there of officers doing good. Not many, other than the really heroic type of things. That's because it's their job, to do good things, investigate crime and also give out tickets and make arrests which might not appear all that good to the average person but go towards keeping society at a whole safe.
The great majority of officers don't want the corrupt ones to get away with things and actually despise them just as much as you because of both the hurt they've caused and the damage they do to the reputation of all officers. | | | |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 15:55 - Jan 30 with 1057 views | bluelagos |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 15:38 - Jan 30 by brad548ye |
Sorry Bluelagos but i have to disagree with you there. There are far far more good officers than bad.
The thing is that when officers are caught out it makes news, big news and quite rightly so as we hold officers to a higher level of accountability considering the purpose of their job and the powers they have over other members of the public.
It's not not unheard of but how many stories get out there of officers doing good. Not many, other than the really heroic type of things. That's because it's their job, to do good things, investigate crime and also give out tickets and make arrests which might not appear all that good to the average person but go towards keeping society at a whole safe.
The great majority of officers don't want the corrupt ones to get away with things and actually despise them just as much as you because of both the hurt they've caused and the damage they do to the reputation of all officers. |
My experience is very different to yours. The vast majority of coppers were happy to go along with the cover up over Hillsborough. In fact the only ones who didn't were the 11 or so who left the job that day and some refused to make statements.
But not one of them spoke out at the time. Think about that, over a 1000 officers were happy to see their colleagues lie to and mislead a public inquiry into how 97 football fans died.
Even now maybe half a dozen out of a 1000 or so on duty have conceded the cover up.
Far more good than bad? Maybe when they join but they soon decide that their career and their colleagues reputation (The bluecode) is far more important to them than being decent honest people. That's my experience and it wasn't a handful - it was 99% of them.
Corrupt to the core. | |
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| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 00:02 - Jan 31 with 960 views | brad548ye |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 15:55 - Jan 30 by bluelagos |
My experience is very different to yours. The vast majority of coppers were happy to go along with the cover up over Hillsborough. In fact the only ones who didn't were the 11 or so who left the job that day and some refused to make statements.
But not one of them spoke out at the time. Think about that, over a 1000 officers were happy to see their colleagues lie to and mislead a public inquiry into how 97 football fans died.
Even now maybe half a dozen out of a 1000 or so on duty have conceded the cover up.
Far more good than bad? Maybe when they join but they soon decide that their career and their colleagues reputation (The bluecode) is far more important to them than being decent honest people. That's my experience and it wasn't a handful - it was 99% of them.
Corrupt to the core. |
In reference to Hillsborough, that was a different era of policing. Not that that de-values your point or lived experience at all. I'm talking more about the recent times. I don't think something like that would happen again in modern times, just my opinion.
But even though 1000 sounds a lot and maybe a few thousand more on top of that dotted around in many other forces around the country that's out of over 150,000 officers and probably a lot more than what there actually are. So no i don't agree with the rotten to the core statement. | | | |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 06:47 - Jan 31 with 908 views | bluelagos |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 00:02 - Jan 31 by brad548ye |
In reference to Hillsborough, that was a different era of policing. Not that that de-values your point or lived experience at all. I'm talking more about the recent times. I don't think something like that would happen again in modern times, just my opinion.
But even though 1000 sounds a lot and maybe a few thousand more on top of that dotted around in many other forces around the country that's out of over 150,000 officers and probably a lot more than what there actually are. So no i don't agree with the rotten to the core statement. |
So a few points.
You make the assertion that Hillsborough was a different era. Whilst it was 35 years ago, the police only formally accepted their cover up last year. Before that, for 34 years they continued to deny their role in all legal proceedings.
And am interested why you think the culture of cover up wouldn't happen again. There are countless far more recent examples where police officers have lied to protect their colleagues. Have a read up of the partner to the copper who killed Dalian Atkinson. She clearly lied in her observations and after being found guilty of
misconduct remains a serving officer.
Your loyalty to the police is touching, but I believe rather naive. Baroness Casey produced a detailed report highlighting the corruption, the cultural issues within the Met. Just as Scarman did, MacPherson did. She details how whistleblowers are ostracized and forced to leave, indeed only yesterday a whistleblower spoke on the News at 10 and he was sacked ffs
Unless you think Casey was wrong, then your position doesn't stack up. If you (not you) work for an organisation that is institutionally corrupt yet you fail to challenge those behaviours then you are part of the problem. It is how organisations full of good people become corrupt to the core.
See also the Catholic church turning a blind eye to peado priests and the Post Office jailing innocent people. When the organisation reputation comes before doing what's right, the organisation is indeed corrupt to the core.
Of course there are good priests or PO staff, but they, like the police are imho lost as organisations.
What has.changed? Do they police recruit differently? Do they now welcome whistleblowers? Do we now have an effective system of rooting out dodgy coppers? I am yet to see evidence of any of that, in fact the problems carry on.
The only thing that is really different now from 35 years is mobile phones mean lots of examples of poor policing now come to public attention. But the culture of cover up is as strong as ever. It's in their DNA. | |
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| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 07:15 - Jan 31 with 879 views | chicoazul |
| Apparently one third of police officers have fewer than 5 years experience! on 00:02 - Jan 31 by brad548ye |
In reference to Hillsborough, that was a different era of policing. Not that that de-values your point or lived experience at all. I'm talking more about the recent times. I don't think something like that would happen again in modern times, just my opinion.
But even though 1000 sounds a lot and maybe a few thousand more on top of that dotted around in many other forces around the country that's out of over 150,000 officers and probably a lot more than what there actually are. So no i don't agree with the rotten to the core statement. |
The police are incompetent bigoted and useless. They don’t solve 94% of crimes. Anyone who deals with them over what they perceive as low level crime like having a bike nicked knows how utterly uninterested they are. They want completely pulling apart and starting over. |  |
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