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Genuine question 21:48 - Apr 12 with 706 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Why do The Guardian call this group of people a "Settlers rights group"?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/12/one-dead-after-israeli-settlers-st

Bunch of masked blokes drive into a village and start shooting randomly. Sounds a lot like terrorism to me.
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Genuine question on 22:01 - Apr 12 with 642 viewsjontysnut

Armed goons throwing people off their land and the general behaviour of settlers is shocking. I find it hard to understand why this seems not to attract more criticism. Yet wave a Palestinian flag here you're guilty of a hate crime.
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Genuine question on 07:21 - Apr 13 with 523 viewsnoggin

Genuine question on 22:01 - Apr 12 by jontysnut

Armed goons throwing people off their land and the general behaviour of settlers is shocking. I find it hard to understand why this seems not to attract more criticism. Yet wave a Palestinian flag here you're guilty of a hate crime.


Antisemite, or something...

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Genuine question on 07:56 - Apr 13 with 471 viewsGlasgowBlue

I had logged in to post my 100% agreement with your view that this is an act of terrorism and that the illegal settlements should be demolished or given to the Palestinian people to live in as it is out with the agreed borders of Israel, and their presence remains an obstacle to achieving a peaceful outcome to a conflict that has gone on far too long.

Unfortunately your thread has been highjacked by people talking bollox and dismissing genuine racism towards Jewish people.

A shame that a sensible thread such as yours draws out the apologists for antisemitism.
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Genuine question on 08:03 - Apr 13 with 434 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Genuine question on 07:56 - Apr 13 by GlasgowBlue

I had logged in to post my 100% agreement with your view that this is an act of terrorism and that the illegal settlements should be demolished or given to the Palestinian people to live in as it is out with the agreed borders of Israel, and their presence remains an obstacle to achieving a peaceful outcome to a conflict that has gone on far too long.

Unfortunately your thread has been highjacked by people talking bollox and dismissing genuine racism towards Jewish people.

A shame that a sensible thread such as yours draws out the apologists for antisemitism.
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Would you agree that their government is complicit through its encouragement and arming of them?

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Genuine question on 08:06 - Apr 13 with 427 viewsGlasgowBlue

Genuine question on 22:01 - Apr 12 by jontysnut

Armed goons throwing people off their land and the general behaviour of settlers is shocking. I find it hard to understand why this seems not to attract more criticism. Yet wave a Palestinian flag here you're guilty of a hate crime.


You do realise that your postsmakes you look as pig sh1t thick and ignorant as the knuckle dragging EDL racists who constantly bleat that you can’t ever fly a flag of St George without being accused of being racist, don’t you?

The Palestinian flag is waved and carried on the streets of the United Kingdom in their thounds each week. No one has been convicted of a hate crime for doing so.

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Genuine question on 08:09 - Apr 13 with 422 viewsGlasgowBlue

Genuine question on 08:03 - Apr 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

Would you agree that their government is complicit through its encouragement and arming of them?


Yes. The current Israeli government is controlled by an ultra religious far right cabal of terrorist supporters such as Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir.

Netanyahu Serves at their pleasure as a means to stay out of jail.

Said that on numerous occasions.

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Genuine question on 08:11 - Apr 13 with 419 viewsredrickstuhaart

Genuine question on 08:03 - Apr 13 by BanksterDebtSlave

Would you agree that their government is complicit through its encouragement and arming of them?


It is more complicit than that. It encourages and supports settlements.
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Genuine question on 08:24 - Apr 13 with 404 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Genuine question on 08:09 - Apr 13 by GlasgowBlue

Yes. The current Israeli government is controlled by an ultra religious far right cabal of terrorist supporters such as Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir.

Netanyahu Serves at their pleasure as a means to stay out of jail.

Said that on numerous occasions.


I realise that GB and I am not trying to catch you out. Sometimes it is worth joining the dots though and what I can not understand is your vehement support for the actions of a rogue, terrorist supporting State in Gaza and that State being armed and funded by us and our allies.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Genuine question on 08:26 - Apr 13 with 402 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

At least the UK has issued travel bans on some ‘settlers’. They won’t be able to do their annual holiday to a Great Yarmouth now that’ll show ‘em.

They should be on the proscribed terrorist groups with Hamas in my opinion.
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Genuine question on 08:44 - Apr 13 with 376 viewsDJR

As many of the settlers are ultra-Orthodox, an interesting aspect is the exemption of the Haredi community from military service and the current debate about whether to remove it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/ultra-orthodox-israelis-resist-push-mi

"The exemptions offered to the ultra-Orthodox Haredi community date back to the early days of the state of Israel in 1948 when its first prime minister, the socialist David Ben-Gurion, exempted about 400 students from military service so they could devote themselves to religious study. In so doing, Ben-Gurion hoped to keep alive sacred knowledge and traditions almost wiped out in the Holocaust.

Since then, the exemptions have become an increasing headache as the fast-growing community has expanded to make up more than 13% of Israel's population, a proportion expected to reach around a third within 40 years due to a high birth rate.

The Haredi resistance to joining the military is based around their strong sense of religious identity, which many families fear risks being weakened by army service.

Some Haredi men do serve in the army but most do not, which many secular Israelis feel exacerbates social divisions. Often living in heavily Orthodox neighbourhoods and devoting their lives to religious study, many Haredi men do not work for money but live off donations, state benefits and the often paltry wages of their wives, many of whom do work.

For secular Israelis, whose taxes subsidise the Haredim and who are themselves obliged to serve in the military, the exemptions have long bred resentment and this has grown in the six months since the start of the war in Gaza.

For Netanyahu the stakes are high. While public opinion appears to favour removing the exemptions, his government includes two Haredi parties whose departure could trigger new elections, which opinion polls indicate he would lose."
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