| Sunderland 23:21 - Jul 4 with 4377 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
52% of registered voters so way less than half of entitled voters and Labour about 1,500 ahead of Conservatives plus Reform.
The charade/farce begins. |  |
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| Sunderland on 23:59 - Jul 4 with 1391 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sunderland on 23:52 - Jul 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Doesn't trying to exist in an assylum just turn you mad? |
I dunno, you were pretty happy when Corbyn and his merry band of lunatics ran the asylum… |  | | |
| Sunderland on 00:01 - Jul 5 with 1368 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 23:56 - Jul 4 by positivity |
who mentioned labour? they're living rent-free in your head!
you're spinning more desperately than nadine dorries tonight... |
Well Newcy was referencing winning votes by 52% so..... | |
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| Sunderland on 00:02 - Jul 5 with 1357 views | J2BLUE |
| Sunderland on 23:58 - Jul 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I think that perhaps with current levels of disengagement perhaps you should join us.....or carry on being a condescending arse! Yeah, go with that, it suits you xx |
I'll join you when you stop stamping your feet and having a tantrum. We were never going to go from the Tories to Corbyn. There is no point having a more left wing party if it cannot win.
There was one goal here. To get the Tories out. Now let's see what Starmer does and how he approaches the next election.
Perhaps you should join us.....or carry on being the mouthy idealistic 16 year old sitting at the dinner table at Christmas telling the pensioners how the world works. |  |
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| Sunderland on 00:03 - Jul 5 with 1339 views | positivity |
| Sunderland on 00:01 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Well Newcy was referencing winning votes by 52% so..... |
try reading the post he was referring to again. you wrote it... | |
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| Sunderland on 00:03 - Jul 5 with 1333 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sunderland on 23:58 - Jul 4 by redrickstuhaart |
Everyone one of those has the opportunity. If they choose not to exercise it, that is their call. It has no bearing on the legitimacy of the result. |
Yep. It’d be good if we could get more people engaged though. There’s a big issue with the ‘they’re all the same’ lot, most of whom don’t seem to have any clue what any of them are like.
I’m not sure we want to aim for the 108% that the likes of Putin gets though! |  |
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| Sunderland on 00:04 - Jul 5 with 1320 views | Ryorry |
| Sunderland on 23:55 - Jul 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Disillusionment, not feeling connected to the process.....probably, yes. |
I can understand disillusionment, but in order to feel "connected to the process" you do need to, err, not actively disconnect from the process as you've frequently advertised that you've done!
Just sayin ... |  |
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| Sunderland on 00:05 - Jul 5 with 1267 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 23:59 - Jul 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I dunno, you were pretty happy when Corbyn and his merry band of lunatics ran the asylum… |
Was I? Interesting you think so but pretty sure he was never in Government. It was kind of fun thinking there might be a meaningful alternative for a while though. You know that weird Scandinavian style social democracy....madness. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:11 - Jul 5 with 1200 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 00:02 - Jul 5 by J2BLUE |
I'll join you when you stop stamping your feet and having a tantrum. We were never going to go from the Tories to Corbyn. There is no point having a more left wing party if it cannot win.
There was one goal here. To get the Tories out. Now let's see what Starmer does and how he approaches the next election.
Perhaps you should join us.....or carry on being the mouthy idealistic 16 year old sitting at the dinner table at Christmas telling the pensioners how the world works. |
No stamping, no tantrums just a lifetime of consistently observing the way things are. Take away undelivered Brexit and Corbyn would have won in 2017. To think he got 40 percent with our media and in that environment shows what an appetite for change was pissed away. Guess we'll never get to find out. Oh well Right wing landslide in 5 years....hoorah. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:13 - Jul 5 with 1163 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 00:03 - Jul 5 by positivity |
try reading the post he was referring to again. you wrote it... |
52% turnout.
Apples and pears.
You're spinning like a top tonight! | |
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| Sunderland on 00:13 - Jul 5 with 1163 views | J2BLUE |
| Sunderland on 00:11 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
No stamping, no tantrums just a lifetime of consistently observing the way things are. Take away undelivered Brexit and Corbyn would have won in 2017. To think he got 40 percent with our media and in that environment shows what an appetite for change was pissed away. Guess we'll never get to find out. Oh well Right wing landslide in 5 years....hoorah. |
40% of the votes cast? The non voters not so important in 2017? | |
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| Sunderland on 00:14 - Jul 5 with 1152 views | NewcyBlue |
| Sunderland on 00:01 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Well Newcy was referencing winning votes by 52% so..... |
I assumed you were being deliberately obtuse ignoring my Brexit vote reference.
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a proper genuine study into the election turnout, and reasons for differences in each constituency between elections.
For instance, Sunderland voted heavily in favour of Brexit. The same Sunderland that benefited from many EU funded projects. The European Structural and Investment Funds Programme allocated £425m to the North East of England.
At the end of 2023 the EU funding in Sunderland was finished.
I do know of quite a lot of Brexit regret in Sunderland.
Again, living in the area I am aware that there is a general sense of dissatisfaction.
I think the turnout in 2019 was 59%. Could Voter ID have played a part in the lower turnout this time? |  |
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| Sunderland on 00:14 - Jul 5 with 1149 views | positivity |
| Sunderland on 00:11 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
No stamping, no tantrums just a lifetime of consistently observing the way things are. Take away undelivered Brexit and Corbyn would have won in 2017. To think he got 40 percent with our media and in that environment shows what an appetite for change was pissed away. Guess we'll never get to find out. Oh well Right wing landslide in 5 years....hoorah. |
take away corbyn and brexit wouldn't have happened, nor would boris/truss/the fertile breeding ground for your "right wing landslide" etc etc.
thanks for your legacy jez | |
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| Sunderland on 00:16 - Jul 5 with 1115 views | positivity |
| Sunderland on 00:13 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
52% turnout.
Apples and pears.
You're spinning like a top tonight! |
you got there in the end, well done nadine! | |
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| Sunderland on 00:17 - Jul 5 with 1089 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 00:02 - Jul 5 by J2BLUE |
I'll join you when you stop stamping your feet and having a tantrum. We were never going to go from the Tories to Corbyn. There is no point having a more left wing party if it cannot win.
There was one goal here. To get the Tories out. Now let's see what Starmer does and how he approaches the next election.
Perhaps you should join us.....or carry on being the mouthy idealistic 16 year old sitting at the dinner table at Christmas telling the pensioners how the world works. |
Two paragraphs out of three without being a condescending c#nt....progress I suppose. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:18 - Jul 5 with 1063 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 00:13 - Jul 5 by J2BLUE |
40% of the votes cast? The non voters not so important in 2017? |
Always important whoever wins. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:19 - Jul 5 with 1030 views | positivity |
| Sunderland on 00:17 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Two paragraphs out of three without being a condescending c#nt....progress I suppose. |
pray for banksy, his boys are taking one hell of a beating! | |
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| Sunderland on 00:19 - Jul 5 with 1022 views | J2BLUE |
| Sunderland on 00:17 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Two paragraphs out of three without being a condescending c#nt....progress I suppose. |
I request a recount. I want the credit for 2/3 | |
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| Sunderland on 00:21 - Jul 5 with 1006 views | positivity |
the non-voters are unimportant in elections by definition.
there's one simple thing they can do to make themselves important though | |
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| Sunderland on 00:23 - Jul 5 with 965 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 00:14 - Jul 5 by NewcyBlue |
I assumed you were being deliberately obtuse ignoring my Brexit vote reference.
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a proper genuine study into the election turnout, and reasons for differences in each constituency between elections.
For instance, Sunderland voted heavily in favour of Brexit. The same Sunderland that benefited from many EU funded projects. The European Structural and Investment Funds Programme allocated £425m to the North East of England.
At the end of 2023 the EU funding in Sunderland was finished.
I do know of quite a lot of Brexit regret in Sunderland.
Again, living in the area I am aware that there is a general sense of dissatisfaction.
I think the turnout in 2019 was 59%. Could Voter ID have played a part in the lower turnout this time? |
Don't worry Newcy I got the 52% reference and yes the I.D thing will have added to the disengagement. It sometimes feels like the powers that be would be more than happy for the plebs to know there place and not expect too much and that many on here would condescendingy concur. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:26 - Jul 5 with 924 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunderland on 23:50 - Jul 4 by NewcyBlue |
I don't think you understand Sunderland mate. |
Not a comment on motive Newcy simply a statement of fact. I mean at least I bothered to spoil my ballot so relatively motivated really. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:34 - Jul 5 with 839 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Sunderland on 00:14 - Jul 5 by positivity |
take away corbyn and brexit wouldn't have happened, nor would boris/truss/the fertile breeding ground for your "right wing landslide" etc etc.
thanks for your legacy jez |
This.
It was a close vote. Corbyn needed to carry only a small proportion of his supporters to swing it. But he was not interested in campaigning against brexit because of his own anti EU ideology. | | | |
| Sunderland on 00:38 - Jul 5 with 825 views | NewcyBlue |
| Sunderland on 00:23 - Jul 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Don't worry Newcy I got the 52% reference and yes the I.D thing will have added to the disengagement. It sometimes feels like the powers that be would be more than happy for the plebs to know there place and not expect too much and that many on here would condescendingy concur. |
Ah good.
The voter ID stuff will have been a contributing factor, also considering the Brexit vote I would imagine that there is little faith in voting. They voted for something, not truly knowing what they were voting for, and didn't get what they didn't know that they weren't going to get.
I would suggest that the lower voter turnout will have many reasons and a study into it would be very interesting. | |
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| Sunderland on 00:59 - Jul 5 with 768 views | Whos_blue |
I've got a couple of question Banksy.
You mention the charade/farce begining. It's a general election. Parties have been campaiging for weeks. People have chosen to engage in the democratic process of casting a vote. It may be for their party, tactical or a pritest vote. This sort of came up in the other thread earlier today, but what exactly were you expecting to happen today? The people have had their say and are expexting something to happen. What is it that makes it a farce? Is it a case of "meet the new boss" etc?
Second question. You reference the relatively low turnout but if you spoil a ballot, is that classed as part of the turnout? You mentioned in this thread you made the effort to go and spoil your own ballot. I genuinely don't know if your efforts are recorded in the turn out figures or not. |  |
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| Sunderland on 01:21 - Jul 5 with 712 views | NewcyBlue |
| Sunderland on 00:59 - Jul 5 by Whos_blue |
I've got a couple of question Banksy.
You mention the charade/farce begining. It's a general election. Parties have been campaiging for weeks. People have chosen to engage in the democratic process of casting a vote. It may be for their party, tactical or a pritest vote. This sort of came up in the other thread earlier today, but what exactly were you expecting to happen today? The people have had their say and are expexting something to happen. What is it that makes it a farce? Is it a case of "meet the new boss" etc?
Second question. You reference the relatively low turnout but if you spoil a ballot, is that classed as part of the turnout? You mentioned in this thread you made the effort to go and spoil your own ballot. I genuinely don't know if your efforts are recorded in the turn out figures or not. |
Spoilt ballots will go in the invalid count. https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/how-elections-work/h
From my understanding, these do not count towards the turnout. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/W07000049
Aberavon had
Electorate 50750
Valid Votes 31598
Invalid Votes 82
Turnout 62.3%
31598/50750 = 00.6226
31598+82 / 50750 = 0.624 | |
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