| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 06:05 - Jul 6 with 1030 views | ibbleobble |
Read the first article and found it quite pointless. It’s the old age debate over style vs substance. McKenna and plenty of managers before him have proven you can have both so why should we accept anything less at International level with the array of talent at our disposal?
I have no sympathy for Southgate. I appreciate the work he’s done but we have to wait two-years for every major tournament. A tournament is a celebration of football not an arena to squeeze the life out of enjoyment for the sake of reputation ala old big nose. |  | |  |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 06:49 - Jul 6 with 1004 views | franz_tyson |
Can't be bothered to read the article.... we all know it's a massive job and the media attention and expectation is off the scale.... BUT.... all we're asking at the moment is for our team to play some half-decent football with a bit of character and spirit.
And just seen a quote from Southgate where he was asked should we now take advantage because we're in the weaker side of the knock-outs. His reply....
"I would say that is a classic example of the entitlement we have as a nation that creates drama and annoys our opponents.
Our focus is on how do we win this game and how do we play to the best of our ability? We have never been to a final outside England, we have only had two finals in our history, three semi-finals."
F#ck off, Gareth! We don't need a lecture and we dont need a history lesson.... just concentrate on doing your job in getting the best out of your team. I grew up where we had so many good CBs, GKs and hard-working CM's, but were lacking in creative players. So we had to play to our strengths. Now we're so fortunate to have so many creative, skilful attacking players yet they're being held back.
Southgate is the luckiest England manager I know in that he's got so many good players and he always seems to get a favourable draw.... yet he doesn't seem to appreciate that and he'd prefer us to be a humble, meek under-dog half-apologising being in these finals. A few moments of magic from players like Bellingham have kept us in this tournament and I still haven't a clue what Southgate is trying to do with this group of players. | | | |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 07:31 - Jul 6 with 973 views | Churchman |
Yes it is well written but misses the point. Nobody disputes what they’ve done in previous tournaments. Great, though the reality is that they've not won anything.
In the here and now, are Southgate’s lot a good team? No. is not bothering taking a left back a good thing? Is he too loyal to crocks and has beens like Shaw and Kane?
Does he have the players? Good question. England’s better players have been bigged up, but while Bellingham’s goal was a thing of beauty, I’ve not seen much else. I think they’re better than that.
Whatever the reason for that sorry mess of a team, the accountability lies with Southgate. |  | | |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 09:48 - Jul 6 with 840 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Interestingly I have just watched France and Portugal, both of whom have better teams and players than England play out a stupefying and entirely predictable 0-0 draw on French TV.
The conclusion was that France are playing to their strengths - and could well win the tournament without scoring a goal from open play. The manager even openly extolled the virtue of playing that way - and nobody laid into him or the team.
The Portuguese crowd seemed to sing non stop - despite Portugal not being able to hit a barn door and surely knowing what was coming.
I suspect in Europe only the English absurdly overrate their national team’s capability and overreact when it inevitably goes pear shaped. I’m quietly confident that England can grind their way to the final before losing to France - probably missing a penalty and having someone one needlessly sent off along the way. | |
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| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 11:17 - Jul 6 with 750 views | stonojnr |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 06:49 - Jul 6 by franz_tyson |
Can't be bothered to read the article.... we all know it's a massive job and the media attention and expectation is off the scale.... BUT.... all we're asking at the moment is for our team to play some half-decent football with a bit of character and spirit.
And just seen a quote from Southgate where he was asked should we now take advantage because we're in the weaker side of the knock-outs. His reply....
"I would say that is a classic example of the entitlement we have as a nation that creates drama and annoys our opponents.
Our focus is on how do we win this game and how do we play to the best of our ability? We have never been to a final outside England, we have only had two finals in our history, three semi-finals."
F#ck off, Gareth! We don't need a lecture and we dont need a history lesson.... just concentrate on doing your job in getting the best out of your team. I grew up where we had so many good CBs, GKs and hard-working CM's, but were lacking in creative players. So we had to play to our strengths. Now we're so fortunate to have so many creative, skilful attacking players yet they're being held back.
Southgate is the luckiest England manager I know in that he's got so many good players and he always seems to get a favourable draw.... yet he doesn't seem to appreciate that and he'd prefer us to be a humble, meek under-dog half-apologising being in these finals. A few moments of magic from players like Bellingham have kept us in this tournament and I still haven't a clue what Southgate is trying to do with this group of players. |
seemed a reasonable answer to the question imo, most of the disappointment about how England are playing at the moment, is from the entitlement of fans/media that this squad should be ripping up the tournament & easily winning it because...well theyre England innit. Whilst the real focus for the team/squad can only ever be just play to their best ability & try to win the next game, progress.
France havent scored a goal in open play yet, imagine what the reaction from the UK press and England fans would be if that were England ? MBappe the 15million Euro per year flop who can only score 1 goal from 20 attempts and doesnt even take penalties.
Germany are the first hosts of a tournament (allegedly as Im not sure how they ignored the past two cohosted tournaments for this stat) to go out at the QF stage. Imagine that were England playing at Wembley going out at the QF stage ? why well because everyone expected England to get to the final, because it was an "easy draw" werent it. | | | |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 15:07 - Jul 6 with 641 views | Radlett_blue |
I would dispute that England would necessarily have done better in the past by picking successful club managers, such as Clough, Paisley & Mourinho. Managing an international side is a very different job. I would concede that we would have done far better to retain Terry Venables.
I will also be intrigued as to what job Southgate does next. I was highly amused to read that Man U were interested in him; I reckon his destiny will be one of the struggling PL clubs will take him in December as a firefighter, probably his old alma mater of Crystal Palace. |  |
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| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 17:13 - Jul 6 with 599 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| England Manager - The Impossible Job on 15:07 - Jul 6 by Radlett_blue |
I would dispute that England would necessarily have done better in the past by picking successful club managers, such as Clough, Paisley & Mourinho. Managing an international side is a very different job. I would concede that we would have done far better to retain Terry Venables.
I will also be intrigued as to what job Southgate does next. I was highly amused to read that Man U were interested in him; I reckon his destiny will be one of the struggling PL clubs will take him in December as a firefighter, probably his old alma mater of Crystal Palace. |
I agree, regarding his future. The article is spot on He understands the camp and team spirit side exceptionally well, shields the players in front of the media, etc, but his tactical ability so far suggests he won't hold down a successful club manager role at an elite level. I hope I'm wrong. He's a decent bloke and I'd love for him to be successful in the top flight. Just not sure he's got it in him.
And, as a point of perspective, the FA did appoint Sam Allardyce as England manager, once upon a time, as ill-fated and short-lived as that was. |  | | |
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