| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves 13:45 - Jul 20 with 4304 views | CopfordBlue |
I love our club and wish we had a 60,000 capacity for home games and got 10,000 tickets for every away game to satisfy current demand. I can understand why thousands of supporters had enough of watching the club they loved fall into decline and so didn’t renew season tickets, went to games less frequently and in many cases stopped going completely. Administration, wasted opportunities, awful football, a decaying stadium, poor atmosphere in a half empty ground etc were hard to take especially for those lucky enough to remember us as one of the best teams in the country and arguably Europe. For years there wasn’t much to enjoy, most of those who kept going were doing so out of blind loyalty and habit rather than wanting to be considered “super fans” or having any real conviction that things would turn around (well certainly not to the extent they have).
What is really starting to grate though is that those who have rekindled their love for the club (and let’s face it anyone who has ever so much as had a soft spot for us let alone supported us has been moved by what’s been achieved) aiming digs at the owners and those who make the decisions regarding ticket allocation.
There will be very few home supporters at Portman Road against Liverpool who don’t deserve to be there. There won’t be many who miss out who could look themselves in the mirror and feel genuinely aggrieved not to have a ticket. The same applies to the away end at the Etihad a week later. I’d love to be there but accept that I wasn’t committed enough to go to Accrington, Fleetwood etc etc. I’m pleased that those who were are now being rewarded.
Stop whinging and take pride in your club and what’s been achieved in the last couple of years. They’re your club whether you can get tickets or not so get behind them and enjoy what’s ahead. [Post edited 20 Jul 2024 14:04]
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 15:51 - Jul 20 with 3999 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I am gutted that I had very limited opportunity to attend to watch us last season and will have even less opportunity next season.
However, I would much rather miss out on seeing us much where we are over having a season ticket when I did watching what I did. |  |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 16:25 - Jul 20 with 3784 views | MattinLondon |
I take issue with your use of ‘committed’ simply because some simply can’t afford to go to every game or can’t take the time off work. Both issues aren’t down to lack of commitment but due to demands elsewhere.
Personally, I did put in all the miles for a lot of years but due to starting a young family I made the conscious decision to put football to one side and concentrate on the children.
I never envisioned that the team would generate so much excitement but it has, I didn’t go to that many games and so I don’t deserve a ticket. But I’ll still try to get one. |  | | |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 16:48 - Jul 20 with 3673 views | ParisBlue |
With a 500 mile round trip its impossible to make every game.
I'm not suggesting a guarantee, but some historical recognition in priority (as they did for Huddersfield), even for a limited number of games over the season would have been acceptable.
Most away games will not be a problem if you start with 20+ AND go to the games, if you're 15+ you'll be OK for Man City and I'd suggest you get to 20+ ASAP. Brentford will be the first challenge (away game 5) |  |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 17:58 - Jul 20 with 3424 views | CopfordBlue |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 16:25 - Jul 20 by MattinLondon |
I take issue with your use of ‘committed’ simply because some simply can’t afford to go to every game or can’t take the time off work. Both issues aren’t down to lack of commitment but due to demands elsewhere.
Personally, I did put in all the miles for a lot of years but due to starting a young family I made the conscious decision to put football to one side and concentrate on the children.
I never envisioned that the team would generate so much excitement but it has, I didn’t go to that many games and so I don’t deserve a ticket. But I’ll still try to get one. |
I get what you’re saying and like you there have been spells when for a variety of reasons I haven’t had a season ticket or gone to every game. I think the only time I used “committed” was in relation to myself and saying I didn’t have the commitment to travel the length of the country for league one football.
My point isn’t that we have supporters who can’t make every game, that’s normal and is most people at some points in our lives, it’s the amount of complaining about the club’s approach to tickets when what they are doing seems about as fair and reasonable as any system could be. It also surprises me that many of those who couldn’t attend regularly when we were in the doldrums now seem to have the time and money to. | |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 18:03 - Jul 20 with 3387 views | CopfordBlue |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 16:48 - Jul 20 by ParisBlue |
With a 500 mile round trip its impossible to make every game.
I'm not suggesting a guarantee, but some historical recognition in priority (as they did for Huddersfield), even for a limited number of games over the season would have been acceptable.
Most away games will not be a problem if you start with 20+ AND go to the games, if you're 15+ you'll be OK for Man City and I'd suggest you get to 20+ ASAP. Brentford will be the first challenge (away game 5) |
Acceptable to you but not to others who would lose out. Whatever the club do at the moment they can’t satisfy demand. A system that would work well for you would leave others feeling disgruntled. Hopefully we’ll stay there long enough for the club to expand the stadium which would at least satisfy more supporters than with the current capacity. | |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 19:18 - Jul 20 with 3199 views | oldburian |
I have supported the Town for over 70 years and been a regular for most of the time. The last two years unfortunately I had an undiagnosed illness which prevented me from attending. Bought tickets on two or three occasions for the lesser matches to go with the grandchildren but each time was too ill to attend. Fortunately a chance comment from a nurse solved the problem that doctors, consultants and specialists found could not sort.
I am now in a situation where I have no status whatsoever, my only chance would be a very unattractive match in one of the cups. There is no way that the club could accommodate my situation and I understand that.
However, I am over the moon that my club is now thriving, the very reason I cannot get a ticket, and I will continue to support happily in my own way understanding that administering to all and sundry is an impossibility.
We are above Norwich so let us all rejoice. | | | |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 22:53 - Jul 20 with 2858 views | CopfordBlue |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 19:18 - Jul 20 by oldburian |
I have supported the Town for over 70 years and been a regular for most of the time. The last two years unfortunately I had an undiagnosed illness which prevented me from attending. Bought tickets on two or three occasions for the lesser matches to go with the grandchildren but each time was too ill to attend. Fortunately a chance comment from a nurse solved the problem that doctors, consultants and specialists found could not sort.
I am now in a situation where I have no status whatsoever, my only chance would be a very unattractive match in one of the cups. There is no way that the club could accommodate my situation and I understand that.
However, I am over the moon that my club is now thriving, the very reason I cannot get a ticket, and I will continue to support happily in my own way understanding that administering to all and sundry is an impossibility.
We are above Norwich so let us all rejoice. |
I’m really sorry to hear what you’ve been through recently, It’s great that you’ve had some positive news. My post wasn’t directed at those, like you, who have been really unlucky with the timing of your enforced break from attending games. I’m certain that if the club could find an exception for the tiny minority of loyal supporters who for reasons beyond their control have been absent in recent years they would do. You’re not complaining anyway, you seem very philosophical about it. My moan is that there seem to be so many fans who couldn’t commit, have now decided that they can and lash out at the club for the fact that demand is outstripping supply so they can’t get tickets.
I really hope you get a chance to go to a game this season with your grandchildren this season. | |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 10:47 - Jul 21 with 2440 views | oldburian |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 22:53 - Jul 20 by CopfordBlue |
I’m really sorry to hear what you’ve been through recently, It’s great that you’ve had some positive news. My post wasn’t directed at those, like you, who have been really unlucky with the timing of your enforced break from attending games. I’m certain that if the club could find an exception for the tiny minority of loyal supporters who for reasons beyond their control have been absent in recent years they would do. You’re not complaining anyway, you seem very philosophical about it. My moan is that there seem to be so many fans who couldn’t commit, have now decided that they can and lash out at the club for the fact that demand is outstripping supply so they can’t get tickets.
I really hope you get a chance to go to a game this season with your grandchildren this season. |
The problem is that there are many varieties of exceptions. If the club prioritises the odd ones then the other exceptions will feel very hard done by. It is best that keep consistent in their allocations. I do not consider myself to be a priority. My older brother lives in Thetford and of course has taken some comments, his reply is that I have seen my team win the League, the cup and a European Cup which is more than you lot could ever hope for. I too am in that position and have had some wonderful moments, it is now the turn of the newer supporters to experience the better times. | | | |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 12:12 - Jul 21 with 2323 views | TractorWood |
I think it's just a numbers game. 21k season tickets and 2.7k away fans.
There are very few home tickets actually left. Then you combine our huge recent success and the sheer number of fans who have some type of recent, ongoing or past (due to our fantastic history and older demography of Suffolk) connection with the club then you have 10,000s of fans jousting for about 4,000 tickets.
I feel empathetic at a personal level for people as it's a real shame but in a macro sense, it kind of 'is what it is'. Just need to enjoy the ride. |  |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 23:37 - Jul 21 with 1980 views | Swansea_Blue |
That seems a bit of an unnecessary dig at fellow fans. I’ve not seen much whinging either (not on here anyway, although I’ve not been on much the last few days). |  |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 07:01 - Jul 22 with 1786 views | Churchman |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 16:25 - Jul 20 by MattinLondon |
I take issue with your use of ‘committed’ simply because some simply can’t afford to go to every game or can’t take the time off work. Both issues aren’t down to lack of commitment but due to demands elsewhere.
Personally, I did put in all the miles for a lot of years but due to starting a young family I made the conscious decision to put football to one side and concentrate on the children.
I never envisioned that the team would generate so much excitement but it has, I didn’t go to that many games and so I don’t deserve a ticket. But I’ll still try to get one. |
You make an interesting point about commitment, Matt. There are plenty of reasons why people go to football a good number why they can’t or don’t, whether it be money, distance, competing commitments or better things to do.
There were plenty of years where school then work restricted when I could go to games. That over time became easier. There were times, namely the Duncan years then the Evans period where, bar 14/15, going was purely a habit. My dad and I had our little routine and enjoyed the going, the tedium in the ground and post match rage at the divs phoning in to Radio Suffolk to defend a turgid effort against whoever and waiting for Keane to blow up. Was that commitment or masochism? It was what it was.
The only thing I’ll take odds over with your post is that you do deserve a ticket. Everyone who follows this club wishes to go does. But in the real world given ITFCs rise, it’s not going to happen while ‘demand exceeds supply’. |  | | |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 08:50 - Jul 22 with 1578 views | skankerman |
I think you are a little bit out of order with your comments
I don’t live in the area and for the past 45 years manage around 6 games a season
Over the years didn’t mind being with the other 11000 when playing Walsall and other clubs when we were very much in decline.
I was at the Watford game at the end of last season and both seats next to me were Arsenal supporters but through a friend of a friend found tickets
Are they more entitled to the games this season when clearly we are not their first club or supporters like me that have supported our club over many decades and most of that time we have not been great to watch
Equally I don’t need someone like yourself to question my loyalty. | | | |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 09:02 - Jul 22 with 1554 views | CopfordBlue |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 08:50 - Jul 22 by skankerman |
I think you are a little bit out of order with your comments
I don’t live in the area and for the past 45 years manage around 6 games a season
Over the years didn’t mind being with the other 11000 when playing Walsall and other clubs when we were very much in decline.
I was at the Watford game at the end of last season and both seats next to me were Arsenal supporters but through a friend of a friend found tickets
Are they more entitled to the games this season when clearly we are not their first club or supporters like me that have supported our club over many decades and most of that time we have not been great to watch
Equally I don’t need someone like yourself to question my loyalty. |
I’m not questioning anyone’s loyalty. We have fans across the world who for obvious reasons can only attend games occasionally. What’s irritating is the club being criticised for how they are approaching the current over-demand. The approach they have taken seems quite reasonable. Like all systems, we all tend to like those that work in our favour. | |
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| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 09:42 - Jul 22 with 1487 views | MattinLondon |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 07:01 - Jul 22 by Churchman |
You make an interesting point about commitment, Matt. There are plenty of reasons why people go to football a good number why they can’t or don’t, whether it be money, distance, competing commitments or better things to do.
There were plenty of years where school then work restricted when I could go to games. That over time became easier. There were times, namely the Duncan years then the Evans period where, bar 14/15, going was purely a habit. My dad and I had our little routine and enjoyed the going, the tedium in the ground and post match rage at the divs phoning in to Radio Suffolk to defend a turgid effort against whoever and waiting for Keane to blow up. Was that commitment or masochism? It was what it was.
The only thing I’ll take odds over with your post is that you do deserve a ticket. Everyone who follows this club wishes to go does. But in the real world given ITFCs rise, it’s not going to happen while ‘demand exceeds supply’. |
Morning Churchman, I don’t think I did say that I deserve a ticket - I know on balance on recent history that I don’t but I’m still going to try and get one.
You are right that demand far exceeds supply and that no Town fan deserves a ticket over another Town fan - for example, an eighteen year old who has been going regularly for a few years has exactly the sane right as someone who has been going for thirty, forty or fifty years.
But, despite the scarcity of tickets I’d much rather have it like this than seating in an half-empty stadium, watching dross with Evans as an owner. | | | |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 10:14 - Jul 22 with 1438 views | Churchman |
| Some supporters need to be more honest with themselves on 09:42 - Jul 22 by MattinLondon |
Morning Churchman, I don’t think I did say that I deserve a ticket - I know on balance on recent history that I don’t but I’m still going to try and get one.
You are right that demand far exceeds supply and that no Town fan deserves a ticket over another Town fan - for example, an eighteen year old who has been going regularly for a few years has exactly the sane right as someone who has been going for thirty, forty or fifty years.
But, despite the scarcity of tickets I’d much rather have it like this than seating in an half-empty stadium, watching dross with Evans as an owner. |
Morning. Poor messaging on my part Matt. I meant that you very much DO deserve a ticket as much as anyone else. It’s all the law of chance.
Domestic circumstances meant not going to games so a ST was not an option for me during most of the L1 period. The opportunity to go again arose at the beginning of 2023 so I bought an ST for 2023/24 when they became available. It was pure chance. Fat luck, just as acquiring one in 2000 was.
Yes, regarding what we have witnessed /are witnessing, it is beyond my wildest dreams. Everything is so different to particularly those depressing periods. My wish is for the club to be as innovative as possible to get as many people to games as is feasible and to expand the ground without hobbling the club as it’s done before. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 13:11]
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