| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:23 - Jul 25 with 536 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:08 - Jul 25 by DJR |
I didn't realise you were such an authoritarian! |
Well I am a former Chief Whip of my party's group on District Council level and have stood successfully on a party ticket on three occasions so I certainly know what obligations come with it. But your post doesn't really address my point.
The rebels stood on the Labour manifesto
Dropping the cap was not in the Labour manifesto
They were elected on the Labour ticket
Dropping the cap is a £3billion spending commitment
Labour made a great deal about not committing to making uncosted spending commitments during the election campaign
Many people switched to Labour on the basis that they were seen to be more fiscally responsible
Reversing the cap has minority public support, including those who voted Labour
3 weeks after the general election the rebels voted against the party for an uncosted spending commitment which was not in the Labour manifesto
Any of the points in there that you disagree with? [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 12:28]
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| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:41 - Jul 25 with 487 views | DJR |
| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:23 - Jul 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Well I am a former Chief Whip of my party's group on District Council level and have stood successfully on a party ticket on three occasions so I certainly know what obligations come with it. But your post doesn't really address my point.
The rebels stood on the Labour manifesto
Dropping the cap was not in the Labour manifesto
They were elected on the Labour ticket
Dropping the cap is a £3billion spending commitment
Labour made a great deal about not committing to making uncosted spending commitments during the election campaign
Many people switched to Labour on the basis that they were seen to be more fiscally responsible
Reversing the cap has minority public support, including those who voted Labour
3 weeks after the general election the rebels voted against the party for an uncosted spending commitment which was not in the Labour manifesto
Any of the points in there that you disagree with? [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 12:28]
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All of those points don't address my concerns which I have set out in various ways on this thread.
As it is, it just seems to me to be further evidence of the illiberalism that so-called liberals now engage in.
EDIT: Perhaps the best embodiment of an illiberal liberal is James O'Brien who is a know-all who harangues and tries to humiliate those who don't share his views. [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 13:40]
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| Control-freakery gone mad on 13:34 - Jul 25 with 421 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:23 - Jul 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Well I am a former Chief Whip of my party's group on District Council level and have stood successfully on a party ticket on three occasions so I certainly know what obligations come with it. But your post doesn't really address my point.
The rebels stood on the Labour manifesto
Dropping the cap was not in the Labour manifesto
They were elected on the Labour ticket
Dropping the cap is a £3billion spending commitment
Labour made a great deal about not committing to making uncosted spending commitments during the election campaign
Many people switched to Labour on the basis that they were seen to be more fiscally responsible
Reversing the cap has minority public support, including those who voted Labour
3 weeks after the general election the rebels voted against the party for an uncosted spending commitment which was not in the Labour manifesto
Any of the points in there that you disagree with? [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 12:28]
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I’LL BE FEEDING SOME FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MY KIDS TONIGHT!!!! |  | | |
| Control-freakery gone mad on 16:17 - Jul 25 with 354 views | Blueschev |
| Control-freakery gone mad on 12:41 - Jul 25 by DJR |
All of those points don't address my concerns which I have set out in various ways on this thread.
As it is, it just seems to me to be further evidence of the illiberalism that so-called liberals now engage in.
EDIT: Perhaps the best embodiment of an illiberal liberal is James O'Brien who is a know-all who harangues and tries to humiliate those who don't share his views. [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 13:40]
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James O'Brien is the absolute worst, and I'm sure LBC deliberately air calls from the least articulate listeners just so that he can bully them. He actually reminds me of Jeremy Kyle.
Back to the OP, it's an unprecedented attack on an MPs freedom of conscience. People don't seem fussed by it because they don't like the MPs it affects. They seem to fail to grasp that the precedent it sets could also be used against those with whom they agree. Though maybe they won't care as long as their team keep winning. [Post edited 25 Jul 2024 16:20]
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