Carole has a point, I think 19:45 - Aug 4 with 1361 views | Zx1988 | The events of the last week feel as if a rubicon has been crossed. Reading the details of historic events, today has worrying similarities with the Rostock-Lichtenhagen riots (especially the degree of fore-warning) in the former DDR in 1992, after which it took ten years to fully prosecute the perpetrators. It's one thing (and quite right) to take tough action against those involved in these disgusting events, but it feels as if deeper action needs to be taken in order to address the root causes, and how matters have been allowed to degrade this far. It feels to me as if some sort of independent commission (is that the right category?) needs to be established in order to fully investigate why this has happened, how the likes of SYL, Farage, Tate et al have been allowed to whip up hatred without censure, and the societal conditions that have allowed their ilk and their hatred to thrive. |  |
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Carole has a point, I think on 19:54 - Aug 4 with 1222 views | Dubtractor | The second part of this tweet from the NPCC suggests that they are going to be going after those who have used social media to stir this all up. |  |
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Carole has a point, I think on 19:59 - Aug 4 with 1167 views | DarkBrandon |
Carole has a point, I think on 19:54 - Aug 4 by Dubtractor | The second part of this tweet from the NPCC suggests that they are going to be going after those who have used social media to stir this all up. |
That’s the wrong way to target this. They should be going against the social media companies to are monetising outrage, driving the tone of the debate down ever viler avenues and have no regard to their impact upon society, only the bottom line. Going after the posters is a waste of time. There will always be others following in their wake |  | |  |
Carole has a point, I think on 20:02 - Aug 4 with 1141 views | blueasfook |
Carole has a point, I think on 19:59 - Aug 4 by DarkBrandon | That’s the wrong way to target this. They should be going against the social media companies to are monetising outrage, driving the tone of the debate down ever viler avenues and have no regard to their impact upon society, only the bottom line. Going after the posters is a waste of time. There will always be others following in their wake |
Many of them aren't even real people anyway but bots churning out propaganda. |  |
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Carole has a point, I think on 20:06 - Aug 4 with 1073 views | DarkBrandon |
Carole has a point, I think on 20:02 - Aug 4 by blueasfook | Many of them aren't even real people anyway but bots churning out propaganda. |
Very true |  | |  |
Carole has a point, I think on 20:44 - Aug 4 with 868 views | CrayonKing | As a general rule I tend to err on the side of platform holders with this one. I think it would be absurd, for example, for Phil to be held liable for things posted on here (although i believe the law already does this to an extent). Likewise somebody who hosts their own Mastodon or Lemmy server can't be expected to police it 24/7. HOWEVER once Twitter, Facebook etc started monetising engagement and promoting some posts over others they were no longer just a forum. They effectively become editors or publishers and as such should be held to much higher legal standards. If you promote nazi propaganda as a platform holder then you should be liable for it. Just because somebody else posted it shouldn't absolve them from blame for *promoting* it, which is exactly what their algos do. |  | |  |
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