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Wolf vs O’Shea 12:37 - Sep 22 with 5955 viewssjg

Without wanting to sling mud like the other thread on this topic, I was wondering what people’s thoughts on this are?

I thought Wolf was dropped after what was maybe his best game ever, considering the quality of the opposition, and having put in good performances against 2 of the best 3 teams in the division. I understand we spent a lot of money on O’Shea, but we did the same on Jack Clarke who has not yet started a game so sort of felt he should have been given the chance to play for the place that he has earned and made his own over the last few seasons, as opposed to being dropped on the basis that O’Shea is ‘objectively’ the better player.

I know it’s early days with O’Shea, and maybe he is unfortunate because Greaves next to him has taken to his role like a duck to water, but I thought he was poor defensively and on the ball yesterday, and did okay defensively but poor on the ball against Brighton.

Having said that, I don’t think we can drop O’Shea now without his confidence being shot to bits and feeling a lot of pressure whenever he comes back into the team so I guess it’s sort of a non-starter. Hopefully it becomes clear what the thinking was soon when O’Shea gets to know the system and puts in some stellar performances, but for me it’s hard to feel like Woolfenden wasn’t hard done by based on what we have seen so far.
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Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:29 - Sep 22 with 1022 viewsBlueBadger

Wolf vs O’Shea on 13:36 - Sep 22 by pointofblue

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Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:31 - Sep 22 with 1013 viewsBlueBadger

Wolf vs O’Shea on 12:43 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom

You could make the same case against half the job lot of mercenaries. One of the reasons Town look toothless in attack is that the establish players have been discarded and demoralised. The theory is no doubt that given time they’ll adjust to their new surroundings - quietly forgetting they are championship players, relegation specialists - or wandering rentals.


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Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:40 - Sep 22 with 990 viewssjg

Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:08 - Sep 22 by franz_tyson

Got nothing against Wolf, but the club and its future is far, far bigger than putting an academy local boy in the team. If you're going to moan - take it out on Kieran McKenna at the next home game. Its his decision. O'Shea hasn't cost us any points and he's got to be given a chance.

If after 5-10 games he's struggling and costing us - then it could be that Kieran has to make a choice between him and Wolfy. But he needs a run of games

Don't think this is Wolfy getting picked on. Look at other players who've got us promoted twice and they're either can't make the squad or scratching around for a few minutes at the end of a game.
Wolfys got to keep training hard and keep his head up and wait for his chance. Like everyone else. He can't be given special treatment because he's a local lad.


I don’t think anyone is calling for him to get special treatment? Just saying he didn’t deserve to be dropped when he did and I can’t see any tangible improvement in the team - to be honest, I think the Fulham game is the best we have played all season
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Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:14 - Sep 22 with 933 viewsLittleBoyBlue1

Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:40 - Sep 22 by sjg

I don’t think anyone is calling for him to get special treatment? Just saying he didn’t deserve to be dropped when he did and I can’t see any tangible improvement in the team - to be honest, I think the Fulham game is the best we have played all season


Exactly right
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Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:24 - Sep 22 with 928 viewsSwailsey

Wolf vs O’Shea on 12:43 - Sep 22 by ElephantintheRoom

You could make the same case against half the job lot of mercenaries. One of the reasons Town look toothless in attack is that the establish players have been discarded and demoralised. The theory is no doubt that given time they’ll adjust to their new surroundings - quietly forgetting they are championship players, relegation specialists - or wandering rentals.


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Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:26 - Sep 22 with 920 viewsSwailsey

Wolf vs O’Shea on 13:36 - Sep 22 by pointofblue

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Me too pleased, very intrigued by this, to see if it aligns with what I heard.

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Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:27 - Sep 22 with 910 viewspointofblue

Wolf vs O’Shea on 15:25 - Sep 22 by franz_tyson

If he's not looking worse than O'Shea then that means they're of comparative standard in your opinion. In which case, why is there so much furore about Oshea taking the shirt? Can't say I've seen any real dip or any increase in quality from O'Shea coming in, so, for me, I'm backing Kierans judgement for the moment. Give it time and we can make a proper judgement. It's possible O'Shea might improve after 2 games or is that the cut off point when decisions are made?


Maybe I was being slightly generous before with my post - to date I'd say O'Shea has looked a downgrade on Woolfenden. Will he be long term? Hopefully not.

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Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:32 - Sep 22 with 895 viewsFromReuserWithLove

Wolf vs O’Shea on 16:26 - Sep 22 by Swailsey

Me too pleased, very intrigued by this, to see if it aligns with what I heard.


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Wolf vs O’Shea on 22:50 - Oct 26 with 456 viewssjg

This has aged well. Some of the responses have not
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