| Russian ship in the channel 20:47 - Sep 26 with 6426 views | nodge_blue |
I just saw a story on YT that there’s a Russian cargo ship in the channel, close to Dungeness, that’s “struggling”. With enough fertiliser on it to create an explosion equivalent to two tactical nukes.
I really don’t like us playing Russian roulette with all this. Sooner or later Putin might do something extreme. The guy on the video said he’s bluffing with all the nukes etc, but how the hell does he know to be frank. Desperate people do desperate things.
Am I just being a coward to say we shouldn’t allow these storm shadows to hit Russia, in the face of Ukraine keep getting battered?
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| Russian ship in the channel on 13:39 - Sep 27 with 1447 views | Guthrum |
| Russian ship in the channel on 11:49 - Sep 27 by soupytwist |
You probably know more about it than me, but some of the predictions about what would happen if the Montgomery went up and how precarious it is are quite concerning.
Maybe I don't need to worry about my mum's house in Southend being washed away in an enormous tsunami just yet. |
Think Sheerness is in more danger than Southend.
There's about 1,500 tons of explosives on board the SSRM. If they all went up at once, from looking at estimates for small nuclear weapons, the light damage radius (broken windows, damaged tiles, gutters) stretches out about 2-3 miles. Sheerness is within that, Southend outside. There'd be a bit of a wave, but unless she lives right on the front*, unlikely to even get wet.
* Probably not, even then. She'd hear the bang, tho. |  |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 13:58 - Sep 27 with 1398 views | Guthrum |
| Russian ship in the channel on 13:30 - Sep 27 by Pinewoodblue |
You wonder what the blast radius would be, and if there would be a tsunami guess the North Sea is shallow in that area. |
Significant damage, up to a mile. Light damage (broken windows), about four times that. There might be a bit of a wave, but it will probably be very small by the time it's 10 miles out. It's not that shallow so far out.
It's fertiliser, not actual high explosive. Plus it isn't going to be arranged and confined in a way to maximise blast. It may not all go up, or at once. So the force may well be less than an equivalent weight (20,000 tons) of TNT, upon which the above figures (in the form of a nuclear weapon damage assessment) are based. | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 16:11 - Sep 27 with 1306 views | BloomBlue |
| Russian ship in the channel on 13:58 - Sep 27 by Guthrum |
Significant damage, up to a mile. Light damage (broken windows), about four times that. There might be a bit of a wave, but it will probably be very small by the time it's 10 miles out. It's not that shallow so far out.
It's fertiliser, not actual high explosive. Plus it isn't going to be arranged and confined in a way to maximise blast. It may not all go up, or at once. So the force may well be less than an equivalent weight (20,000 tons) of TNT, upon which the above figures (in the form of a nuclear weapon damage assessment) are based. |
Depends if it contains other explosives. Anyone who saw Canary Wharf after the IRA blew it up using ammonium nitrate fertilizer (and some semtex) will be more than aware the damage fertiliser can do. |  | | |
| Russian ship in the channel on 16:20 - Sep 27 with 1299 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Russian ship in the channel on 16:11 - Sep 27 by BloomBlue |
Depends if it contains other explosives. Anyone who saw Canary Wharf after the IRA blew it up using ammonium nitrate fertilizer (and some semtex) will be more than aware the damage fertiliser can do. |
There was also the incident in Beirut back in 2020 in which incorrectly stored ammonium caused a huge explosion, killing many and causing billions of dollars of damage :-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion |  | | |
| Russian ship in the channel on 16:26 - Sep 27 with 1272 views | giant_stow |
The before after photos of that incident are terrifying. I think it even blew a ship from the water up onto the dockside. |  |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 17:04 - Sep 27 with 1240 views | Guthrum |
If it was in port, as the Beirut ship was*, then it would be extremely dangerous. That's why no-one wants to let the ship into their harbours. However, it's some 20 miles offshore.
* Tho hadn't the cargo been offloaded into warehouses? | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 14:50 - Oct 28 with 850 views | Churchman |
Blow that up and it’d be a big improvement! Have you seen the state of it??
Used to do great chips in the market place, mind. And it would be the end of the largest parish church in Britain as well as the Pleasure Beach that used to blow down every winter anyway. |  | | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 14:53 - Oct 28 with 826 views | Bent_double |
| Russian ship in the channel on 14:50 - Oct 28 by Churchman |
Blow that up and it’d be a big improvement! Have you seen the state of it??
Used to do great chips in the market place, mind. And it would be the end of the largest parish church in Britain as well as the Pleasure Beach that used to blow down every winter anyway. |
Best say my goodbyes now then. Guess I'll never see us win a game in the PL again  |  |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 15:01 - Oct 28 with 801 views | giant_stow |
| Russian ship in the channel on 14:50 - Oct 28 by Churchman |
Blow that up and it’d be a big improvement! Have you seen the state of it??
Used to do great chips in the market place, mind. And it would be the end of the largest parish church in Britain as well as the Pleasure Beach that used to blow down every winter anyway. |
I still like Yarmouth and that church is amazing (didn't know that fact). Hopefully the Russians will wait until past the weekend to blow it up as a few of us are having a big joint 50th party in Hemsby Saturday and I could do without the windows being blown out. | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 15:11 - Oct 28 with 780 views | Churchman |
| Russian ship in the channel on 15:01 - Oct 28 by giant_stow |
I still like Yarmouth and that church is amazing (didn't know that fact). Hopefully the Russians will wait until past the weekend to blow it up as a few of us are having a big joint 50th party in Hemsby Saturday and I could do without the windows being blown out. |
I have lots of happy childhood memories staying at my grandmothers there. My mother remembered the church burning down in a raid during the war. The flames could be seen all over Yarmouth and it wasn’t rebuilt/re-consecrated until 1961. No money after WW2 for that. | | | |
| Russian ship in the channel on 15:16 - Oct 28 with 760 views | giant_stow |
| Russian ship in the channel on 15:11 - Oct 28 by Churchman |
I have lots of happy childhood memories staying at my grandmothers there. My mother remembered the church burning down in a raid during the war. The flames could be seen all over Yarmouth and it wasn’t rebuilt/re-consecrated until 1961. No money after WW2 for that. |
More interesting facts - nice one, cheers! | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 15:55 - Oct 28 with 685 views | ronnyd |
| Russian ship in the channel on 14:50 - Oct 28 by Churchman |
Blow that up and it’d be a big improvement! Have you seen the state of it??
Used to do great chips in the market place, mind. And it would be the end of the largest parish church in Britain as well as the Pleasure Beach that used to blow down every winter anyway. |
Third largest according to Wiki, behind Beverley and Christchurch. | | | |
| Russian ship in the channel on 15:57 - Oct 28 with 681 views | Churchman |
| Russian ship in the channel on 15:55 - Oct 28 by ronnyd |
Third largest according to Wiki, behind Beverley and Christchurch. |
My edit attachment says it’s the largest Parish Church. Heck, who knows. It’s a big un anyway! | | | |
| Russian ship in the channel on 16:09 - Oct 28 with 659 views | giant_stow |
great stuff!
Love this one:
"The Time and Tide Museum still smells of smoked fish, even though it hasn’t been used for smoking herring for many years" | |
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| Russian ship in the channel on 16:29 - Oct 28 with 612 views | Churchman |
| Russian ship in the channel on 16:09 - Oct 28 by giant_stow |
great stuff!
Love this one:
"The Time and Tide Museum still smells of smoked fish, even though it hasn’t been used for smoking herring for many years" |
Miles Corbet gets a mention. MP for Yarmouth, he was one of the 59 Regicides that signed Charles 1st death warrant.
Charles 2nd agreed to not pursue the surviving signatories on his restoration to the throne, but lied. Our not so Merry Monarch went after the lot, including the dead. Cromwell, Bradshaw and Ireton were dug up and hanged, corpses butchered and their heads mounted on spikes at the end of Westminster Hall. Happy days.
Miles Corbet legged it to Holland, but it didn’t end so well. He was captured, brought back to Britain and hung, drawn and quartered at Tyburn (where Marble Arch is now) in 1662. [Post edited 28 Oct 2024 16:31]
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