| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama 12:30 - Dec 5 with 3617 views | Kievthegreat |
Having already taken the 2nd Largest city, they've now advancing into the 4th as well, with government forces apparently retreating. Only 130 miles from Damascus and only one other major city in between (Homs). You'd be a fool to write Assad off, but it's looking very bad for him. |  | | |  |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 11:40 - Dec 7 with 1104 views | BloomBlue |
Appalling. All under the name of religion. Which has always been a lie, as the Quran tells all Muslims regardless of gender to pursue knowledge, and Muhammad encouraged education for both males and females. It's purely the Taliban believing women should be tied to the house, and the house only for the benefit of their husband. |  | | |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 12:10 - Dec 7 with 1065 views | GlasgowBlue |
Turkey is a Trojan horse in NATO.
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 14:56 - Dec 7 with 1019 views | GlasgowBlue |
That's the battle for Damascus started. It's taken less than two weeks for Assad to lose most of his territory. The Russians are too preoccupied to be of any great help and Iran have been weakened by recent events. | |
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 16:44 - Dec 7 with 987 views | DJR |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 12:10 - Dec 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Turkey is a Trojan horse in NATO.
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At the time it joined, the reforms put in place by Ataturk were still in place. The reforms aimed to transform the old religion-based and multi-communal Ottoman monarchy into a Turkish nation state that would be governed as a parliamentary republic under a secular constitution. It had also joined the allies late in WW2, having been neutral up till then, and fought as part of UN forces in the Korean war.
These days especially, it no longer accords with NATO principles, and would presumably not be allowed admission now given the following from its principles on enlargement, but don't expect them to be expelled any time soon (which is what should happen)..
4. Enlargement of the Alliance will be through accession of new member states to the Washington Treaty. Enlargement should :
Accord with, and help to promote, the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and the safeguarding of the freedom, common heritage and civilisation of all Alliance members and their people, founded on the principles of democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law. New members will need to conform to these basic principles; [Post edited 7 Dec 2024 17:11]
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 16:55 - Dec 7 with 975 views | mellowblue |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 07:49 - Dec 7 by Kievthegreat |
It does appear that HTS might be more moderate than some of the Al-Qaeda and ISIS aligned oppositions. They seem very much at pains to provide assurances to those less inclined to be liberated such as Christians, Kurds and differing Islamic sects. Could just be a facade to appear more respectable or a temporary position while they focus on the battlefield.
Also appears that the regime is in full collapse. Russians pulling back to their bases by the coast, Iranians removing troops, senior leaders and advisors, reports that Assad's family have fled the country. |
At the moment it suits HTS to be appear Western friendly and not some neo-Isis Al Quaeda. It is what Turkey wishes them to appear be as they are heavily Turkey-backed. A convenient relationship. |  | | |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:04 - Dec 7 with 962 views | GlasgowBlue |
Lots of private jets flying from Syria to Qatar apparently. Also Iran have pulled out their military commanders from Syria.
Ironically, the IDF have come to the rescue of UN forces on the Israel Syrian border.
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:08 - Dec 7 with 937 views | DJR |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 16:55 - Dec 7 by mellowblue |
At the moment it suits HTS to be appear Western friendly and not some neo-Isis Al Quaeda. It is what Turkey wishes them to appear be as they are heavily Turkey-backed. A convenient relationship. |
I read something today (I can't remember where) which said that the attack has gone much further than Erdogan intended or expected. And it is interesting to note that the Kurds have taken some ground. I think it was also that article which suggested the fall of Assad could lead to the Kurds creating an extended area of control in Syria. [Post edited 7 Dec 2024 17:22]
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:21 - Dec 7 with 911 views | mellowblue |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:08 - Dec 7 by DJR |
I read something today (I can't remember where) which said that the attack has gone much further than Erdogan intended or expected. And it is interesting to note that the Kurds have taken some ground. I think it was also that article which suggested the fall of Assad could lead to the Kurds creating an extended area of control in Syria. [Post edited 7 Dec 2024 17:22]
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A regime change would certainly help the much-vaunted Arabian gas line along the East Med coastline they have been planning for years that was being blocked by pro-Russia Assad, due to the competition with the Russian gas pipelines. | | | |
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:59 - Dec 7 with 878 views | blueasfook |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:04 - Dec 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Lots of private jets flying from Syria to Qatar apparently. Also Iran have pulled out their military commanders from Syria.
Ironically, the IDF have come to the rescue of UN forces on the Israel Syrian border.
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Wouldn't expect anything less from the IDF. A true ally of peace in the middle east |  |
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 20:26 - Dec 7 with 810 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:04 - Dec 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Lots of private jets flying from Syria to Qatar apparently. Also Iran have pulled out their military commanders from Syria.
Ironically, the IDF have come to the rescue of UN forces on the Israel Syrian border.
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 21:17 - Dec 7 with 763 views | pointofblue |
The Russian delegation at a meeting in Doha has commented in a joint statement that the current crisis posed a threat to regional and international security.
I wonder if the irony is lost?
ETA - I guess this was going to come to a head eventually. The civil war had been going on for so long in Syria. But it seems to have happened very suddenly. [Post edited 7 Dec 2024 21:18]
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| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 21:55 - Dec 7 with 727 views | mellowblue |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 17:08 - Dec 7 by DJR |
I read something today (I can't remember where) which said that the attack has gone much further than Erdogan intended or expected. And it is interesting to note that the Kurds have taken some ground. I think it was also that article which suggested the fall of Assad could lead to the Kurds creating an extended area of control in Syria. [Post edited 7 Dec 2024 17:22]
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The Kurds have had an extensive area of control including oil wells for a number of years now. An independant fully recognised Kurdistan would be a good thing in my eyes. | | | |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 08:46 - Dec 8 with 638 views | DJR |
| Syrian Rebels taking control of Hama on 21:55 - Dec 7 by mellowblue |
The Kurds have had an extensive area of control including oil wells for a number of years now. An independant fully recognised Kurdistan would be a good thing in my eyes. |
I agree, and I think the article talked about that being a possible outcome at least within Syria, but I don't think Turkey will be happy. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 8:49]
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