| Very random question this.. stadium steps 17:03 - Feb 9 with 1808 views | FrimleyBlue |
Not sure if this is different in newer stadiums
But is there a safety reason why there are rarely any hand rails in stadiums..
Saw this post about a fan who tripped and not having anything to hold onto and it reminded me of when i went to Reading in the cup game and remembered having the chat with the wife about no hand rails being there despite being a hell of way up in the stands.
Just wondered if anyone knows. Is it a cost saving thing. Would it become a fire hazard if they were installed etc?
Not really a pressing discussion lol. But just curious. |  |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:06 - Feb 9 with 1759 views | norfsufblue |
Went to the AO arena Friday night in Manchester for a Peter Kay gig and there were no handrails there either ...absolutely treacherous trying to walk down the upper tiers to the floored seats as directed by the signage! |  | | |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:37 - Feb 9 with 1623 views | witchdoctor |
Halfway down the steps at Fulham saw lots of folk stumble due to the increased ‘drop’…. |  | | |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:41 - Feb 9 with 1597 views | algy |
I've sat back row SBR upper for a few years, it's steep and a great view but I wouldn't sit there if it didn't have handrails on the aisle, going up with no handrails is OK, arriving people spread out over an hour, but going down in the crowd at the end and going down with nothing to grab hold of is an unnecessary risk. |  |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. Fewest home wins and equal most home defeats in a season in ITFC history. |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:53 - Feb 9 with 1534 views | Horst3000 |
I assume it’s got something to do with escaping in an emergency such as fire.
The handrail would make it more difficult to exit the rows and evacuate the stand. |  | | |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:58 - Feb 9 with 1522 views | algy |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:53 - Feb 9 by Horst3000 |
I assume it’s got something to do with escaping in an emergency such as fire.
The handrail would make it more difficult to exit the rows and evacuate the stand. |
The handrail in SBR upper is a separate rail at the end of each row, no obstruction to leaving in a hurry whatsoever. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. Fewest home wins and equal most home defeats in a season in ITFC history. |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:04 - Feb 9 with 1473 views | Len_Brennan |
As I get older, with a bad knee & an increasing number of aches & pains, plus being prone to the occasional bout of vertigo, this topic is right up my street.
I'm having a look at Villa Park now on the telly & casting my gaze into the stand, whenever the camera goes wide enough, ahead of the game next week. | | | |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:06 - Feb 9 with 1465 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I suspect the Hillsborough disaster, Lord Justice Taylor's inquest and follow-up safety recommendations would definitely have called for the removal of static barriers in some instances, due to risk of crowd surges and subsequent crushing. Whether that applies to hand rails, I don't know, but you could imagine a crowd surge on stairs could realistically happen.
Not sure whether it would be safer with or without them, in an emergency, though. [Post edited 9 Feb 18:07]
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:52 - Feb 9 with 1342 views | witchdoctor |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 17:41 - Feb 9 by algy |
I've sat back row SBR upper for a few years, it's steep and a great view but I wouldn't sit there if it didn't have handrails on the aisle, going up with no handrails is OK, arriving people spread out over an hour, but going down in the crowd at the end and going down with nothing to grab hold of is an unnecessary risk. |
that’s where I sit…back row looking down the aisle so plenty of leg room… | | | |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:58 - Feb 9 with 1311 views | algy |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:06 - Feb 9 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I suspect the Hillsborough disaster, Lord Justice Taylor's inquest and follow-up safety recommendations would definitely have called for the removal of static barriers in some instances, due to risk of crowd surges and subsequent crushing. Whether that applies to hand rails, I don't know, but you could imagine a crowd surge on stairs could realistically happen.
Not sure whether it would be safer with or without them, in an emergency, though. [Post edited 9 Feb 18:07]
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1990 Taylor Report
1994 All seater mandatory in top 2 divisions
2002 New North Stand (since named after SBR) opened. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. Fewest home wins and equal most home defeats in a season in ITFC history. |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 19:24 - Feb 9 with 1213 views | Churchman |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:52 - Feb 9 by witchdoctor |
that’s where I sit…back row looking down the aisle so plenty of leg room… |
Sat in the SBR upper to see what it was like for the Fortuna game in the second row from the front. It’s steep! Great view, I must say, but like Churchmans upper or top of the west stand, it’s not for me. I like to be in linesman abusing distance!
Hand rails? Er, a must! |  | | |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 20:03 - Feb 9 with 1115 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 18:06 - Feb 9 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I suspect the Hillsborough disaster, Lord Justice Taylor's inquest and follow-up safety recommendations would definitely have called for the removal of static barriers in some instances, due to risk of crowd surges and subsequent crushing. Whether that applies to hand rails, I don't know, but you could imagine a crowd surge on stairs could realistically happen.
Not sure whether it would be safer with or without them, in an emergency, though. [Post edited 9 Feb 18:07]
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Good points.
I wonder if there's a plausible design which could incorporate a retractable hand rail. If you think of the side bars used in bowling. I wonder if something similar could be used which could be retracted during an emergency.
Obviously there's not really been that many incidents so I'm not saying it's something that I think will happen but just find it really fascinating that you could literally fall hundreds of feet and basically rely on the person in front to stop your fall. | |
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| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 20:56 - Feb 9 with 1005 views | algy |
| Very random question this.. stadium steps on 20:03 - Feb 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Good points.
I wonder if there's a plausible design which could incorporate a retractable hand rail. If you think of the side bars used in bowling. I wonder if something similar could be used which could be retracted during an emergency.
Obviously there's not really been that many incidents so I'm not saying it's something that I think will happen but just find it really fascinating that you could literally fall hundreds of feet and basically rely on the person in front to stop your fall. |
I think one factor to be considered is the slope of the stand, SBR is in a space restricted by SAR Way and therefore built close to the pitch, so the Upper tier has to be steep so that the goal line can be seen from all rows. New grounds and more recently built stands have to be built further from the pitch, (a UEFA standard) so can have less steep slopes and no rails. | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. Fewest home wins and equal most home defeats in a season in ITFC history. |
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