| Energy price cap up 6.4% 16:19 - Feb 25 with 5228 views | Pinewoodblue |
I really thought, when we had a change of government, that one of the first crazy Tory policies to be changed was linking electricity prices to the wholesale price of gas.
This enables a bigger profit to be made on electricity generated by wind & solar. There really is no justification for UK energy to be among the most e pensive in Europe. OFGEM isn’t fit for purpose. |  |
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| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:46 - May 9 with 270 views | Herbivore |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 09:27 - May 9 by soupytwist |
I'll say this just to save someone else the trouble - "but pensions". And yes, working for the public sector should be done out of the goodness of your heart.
If you let private sector executives trot out lines that they need the going rate (often compared to spurious equivalents in the US) don't be surprised if they get used elsewhere. |
Public sector pensions are decent but nothing like they used to be. Job security is also a lot worse now than it has been historically, rounds of redundancies are a constant feature. Public sector workers aren't volunteers, a lot of them are providing vital services. It's a shame as a society we don't value our public services. |  |
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| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:51 - May 9 with 251 views | soupytwist |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:46 - May 9 by Herbivore |
Public sector pensions are decent but nothing like they used to be. Job security is also a lot worse now than it has been historically, rounds of redundancies are a constant feature. Public sector workers aren't volunteers, a lot of them are providing vital services. It's a shame as a society we don't value our public services. |
Indeed, public sector pensions are not what they used to be. But the 'gold-plated pension' is an oft-used response from the ignorant.
And there are plenty of public sector workers currently living under the shadow of redundancy, in schools and other services. |  | | |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 11:07 - May 9 with 229 views | Herbivore |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:51 - May 9 by soupytwist |
Indeed, public sector pensions are not what they used to be. But the 'gold-plated pension' is an oft-used response from the ignorant.
And there are plenty of public sector workers currently living under the shadow of redundancy, in schools and other services. |
Indeed. One of the Tories' biggest achievements during their 14 years in power was to poison attitudes towards public services and to pit "workers"/"tax payers" against people working in the public sector (who are also workers who pay tax). | |
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| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 14:04 - May 9 with 173 views | giant_stow |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:40 - May 9 by Herbivore |
Because nobody is going to want to run a massive organisation that comes with tons of stress and a lot of responsibility for a wage that doesn't remotely reflect the work that they are being asked to do. Their wages are already low compared to people running comparable sized organisations in the private sector. I'm not sure what you mean by socialist values in the private sector, they don't exist, companies pay what they need to get people for the job and individuals ask for a salary they see as being commensurate with the work.
Genuine question, what do you think someone who is director of children's services in a local authority should earn? They are responsible for hundreds of staff and tens of hundreds of thousands of children and young people. It's a massively difficult and complex job. What would be a reasonable wage for such a role? And what would be reasonable for the chief exec who then has oversight of ALL council services and is in charge of thousands of staff and a massive budget? |
just to say that work's gone mental, so have no time to debate (wanted to do you the courtesy of saying I'd read your reply). |  |
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| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 12:05 - May 10 with 75 views | giant_stow |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 10:40 - May 9 by Herbivore |
Because nobody is going to want to run a massive organisation that comes with tons of stress and a lot of responsibility for a wage that doesn't remotely reflect the work that they are being asked to do. Their wages are already low compared to people running comparable sized organisations in the private sector. I'm not sure what you mean by socialist values in the private sector, they don't exist, companies pay what they need to get people for the job and individuals ask for a salary they see as being commensurate with the work.
Genuine question, what do you think someone who is director of children's services in a local authority should earn? They are responsible for hundreds of staff and tens of hundreds of thousands of children and young people. It's a massively difficult and complex job. What would be a reasonable wage for such a role? And what would be reasonable for the chief exec who then has oversight of ALL council services and is in charge of thousands of staff and a massive budget? |
Tbh, I think you make some good points. I still have a bit of an issue, but can't be arsed to argue, so I b hereby stand down. | |
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| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 12:18 - May 10 with 62 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Energy price cap up 6.4% on 18:00 - May 8 by itfcsuth |
I hate politics, have very very little interest in it.
The reality is, Tory or Labour, neither could run a knees up in a pub, both sides only as corrupt and as bent as each other, first thought is themselves, public image and future votes.
Politics is common sense first, sadly common sense isn’t that common in UK politics. |
That’s not even close to being true and it’s sad to hear people saying it because it kills engagement in politics (that’s why bad faith actors spread that view in the first place).
Anyway, back on topic I see that Labour did increase the levy (windfall tax) on energy company profits as they said they would. There are still obscene profits being made though, which may be good if anyone’s investing in these companies directly or through their pensions but won’t help anyone else obviously. |  |
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