| Delap... 12:50 - Apr 15 with 4732 views | Jack27 |
Something that I don't think has been mentioned about the Delap release clause...
Yes - Man City could exercise their supposed £40m buyback and sell him on OR we could lose him for £30m once relegated...
BUT (and this might be naive what with the ruthlessness of football)
Is there a possibility Delap could sign a new contract with us to remove the clause? I only say it because (and this could be the naive part) Ipswich signed him and helped him be the player he is. He might feel he owes it to the club to repay that by signing the contract to remove it, still with an agreement to sell to a Premier League team, but without a clause stipulating the amount. |  | | |  |
| Delap... on 10:38 - Apr 16 with 789 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Delap... on 10:09 - Apr 16 by ArnieM |
But haven't you just said a bidding war benefits the player (and his agent),so surely that suggests signing a new contract without the release clause of a mere £30m, is oth feasible AND desirable? |
Eh? You'd have to show me your workings there fella. In what way is signing a new contract without the £30m release clause more beneficial to the player?
The bidding war (on the player's contract) happens precisely because the release clause is so low. |  |
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| Delap... on 11:29 - Apr 16 with 723 views | ArnieM |
No, I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding between us here.
You said, “ A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be”.
But surely there won’t be a bidding war whilst there is this release clause of £30m in his current contract? If there was no such clause, then surely the big 5-6 clubs would have to slog it out between themselves, with their respective offers , in order to be able to speak to the player, which benefits us, the player and his agent? |  |
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| Delap... on 11:44 - Apr 16 with 701 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Delap... on 11:29 - Apr 16 by ArnieM |
No, I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding between us here.
You said, “ A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be”.
But surely there won’t be a bidding war whilst there is this release clause of £30m in his current contract? If there was no such clause, then surely the big 5-6 clubs would have to slog it out between themselves, with their respective offers , in order to be able to speak to the player, which benefits us, the player and his agent? |
Or they all have £30m accepted and slog it out over personal terms. He is in a ridiculously good position this summer. His agent will rightly be saying any prospective club is paying at least £10m below his market value and he/Delap should be getting that money directly rather than us. |  | | |
| Delap... on 11:49 - Apr 16 with 687 views | ArnieM |
| Delap... on 11:44 - Apr 16 by tractorboy1978 |
Or they all have £30m accepted and slog it out over personal terms. He is in a ridiculously good position this summer. His agent will rightly be saying any prospective club is paying at least £10m below his market value and he/Delap should be getting that money directly rather than us. |
Given is high stock atm, £30m is chicken feed to Town. So don't think we're coming out of it too well tbh. | |
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| Delap... on 11:52 - Apr 16 with 683 views | Smoresy |
| Delap... on 11:29 - Apr 16 by ArnieM |
No, I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding between us here.
You said, “ A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be”.
But surely there won’t be a bidding war whilst there is this release clause of £30m in his current contract? If there was no such clause, then surely the big 5-6 clubs would have to slog it out between themselves, with their respective offers , in order to be able to speak to the player, which benefits us, the player and his agent? |
Clubs naturally set limits on how much they're willing to spend on any player.
In the event of an artificially low transfer fee, surplus money may be spent on the player's financial package. The bidding war would involve all clubs willing to meet the release clause, and it would be solely focused on the player's terms.
Raise or remove that release clause and more of the pie must be spent satisfying the parent club, even convincing them to sell to you specifically if there's no release clause at all. This leaves less money available to woo the player. | | | |
| Delap... on 12:29 - Apr 16 with 647 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Delap... on 11:29 - Apr 16 by ArnieM |
No, I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding between us here.
You said, “ A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be”.
But surely there won’t be a bidding war whilst there is this release clause of £30m in his current contract? If there was no such clause, then surely the big 5-6 clubs would have to slog it out between themselves, with their respective offers , in order to be able to speak to the player, which benefits us, the player and his agent? |
Yeah there's a misunderstanding alright.
“A bidding war on his contract..."
i.e. his terms.
They all pay £30m. The bidding war is for his salary and bonuses. Which is why the cheaper the transfer fee, the more teams that will be in for him, and the more they'll have knocking about to offer the player. So the lower the transfer fee the more the player himself gains. | |
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| Delap... on 14:09 - Apr 16 with 599 views | Wright1 |
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| Delap... on 15:02 - Apr 16 with 573 views | itfcsuth |
No chance. He's in a fantastic position ahead of the summer to when negotiating terms with other clubs.
It's not Delap's concern to worry about release clauses Ipswich agreed to, that's our own fault, not his. |  | | |
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| Delap... on 17:03 - Apr 16 with 517 views | ArnieM |
| Delap... on 12:29 - Apr 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah there's a misunderstanding alright.
“A bidding war on his contract..."
i.e. his terms.
They all pay £30m. The bidding war is for his salary and bonuses. Which is why the cheaper the transfer fee, the more teams that will be in for him, and the more they'll have knocking about to offer the player. So the lower the transfer fee the more the player himself gains. |
Lol, I'm looking at it from what Town would get out if the transfer this summer. Not what the plater gets. I dibt care what Delsp gets frankly, as he's sitting pretty, as is his agent. I realise Ashton would game probably felt £30m get out clause was good business at that time, but clearly this now can ge viewed as chicken feed. We're only getting our original £20m plus an extra £10m appreciation on developing Delap thus season. Which, given the ridiculous fees banded about for bang average players at PL, seems to me to be paltry.
Do you think we've done okay getting £30m fir him, when he's stock is so high. I fo wonder what other clubs would have been asking for him, had they had the player. I suppose I'm feeling a bit short changed on behalf of Town really. I have no gripe that Delap will get a bumper move this dimmer, and good luck to him. But I hope we have some kind of sell on clause, or England senior debut clause in there somewhere. | |
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| Delap... on 17:17 - Apr 16 with 505 views | Herbivore |
| Delap... on 17:03 - Apr 16 by ArnieM |
Lol, I'm looking at it from what Town would get out if the transfer this summer. Not what the plater gets. I dibt care what Delsp gets frankly, as he's sitting pretty, as is his agent. I realise Ashton would game probably felt £30m get out clause was good business at that time, but clearly this now can ge viewed as chicken feed. We're only getting our original £20m plus an extra £10m appreciation on developing Delap thus season. Which, given the ridiculous fees banded about for bang average players at PL, seems to me to be paltry.
Do you think we've done okay getting £30m fir him, when he's stock is so high. I fo wonder what other clubs would have been asking for him, had they had the player. I suppose I'm feeling a bit short changed on behalf of Town really. I have no gripe that Delap will get a bumper move this dimmer, and good luck to him. But I hope we have some kind of sell on clause, or England senior debut clause in there somewhere. |
Our original investment in him was £15m. Given he's only been here a season and we're going down, we aren't going to have triggered all of the £5m in top ups. We might not have triggered much of it at all. Judging stuff with hindsight is always going to be flawed, Ashton didn't have a crystal ball and wouldn't have foreseen us going down and Delap being a breakout star in the Prem to such an extent this year. Most of our fans thought we got mugged spending £15m on him last summer, so doubling our money in 12 months in that context rather than applying hindsight isn't such a terrible bit of business. |  |
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| Delap... on 20:17 - Apr 16 with 444 views | Len_Brennan |
In hindsight, we should have sold him in January, for a possible £50m. Chelsea were certainly reported to be prepared to pay that amount.
Of course there'd be calls for Ashton's head if we had, as we still felt we'd be able to stay up, and there were no real replacement options available. | | | |
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