| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:14 - May 14 with 164 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Might you have been in favour of stringing him up 38 years ago? |  |
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| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:17 - May 14 with 162 views | bluelagos |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:14 - May 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Might you have been in favour of stringing him up 38 years ago? |
Anyone who supports the death penalty is either unaware of multiple miscarriages of justice, or just doesn't give a fck if the state executes innocent people... |  |
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| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:42 - May 14 with 137 views | bournemouthblue |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 11:35 - May 14 by naa |
His sentence had a minimum term of 19 years. So, despite having a dodgy confession, which he rescinded, very dodgy physical evidence and nothing else they kept him in for another 19 years for the sake of it. [Post edited 14 May 11:36]
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In part because he never admitted guilt, funny that |  |
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| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:48 - May 14 with 124 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:42 - May 14 by bournemouthblue |
In part because he never admitted guilt, funny that |
His conviction was in part because he admitted his guilt.
His lack of parole was down to not admitting his guilt.
A bit crass really, isn't it? |  |
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| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 22:17 - May 14 with 104 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 21:11 - May 14 by bluelagos |
So you think it was an accidental dishonest act? The police accidentally got a confession from a special needs guy who had done nothing wrong?
The obvious reason why they would have done it is because they were more concerned with "getting a result" than actually ensuring they got the right person.
See countless other cases from 1980s UK policing - who were quite content fitting up innocent people. The parallels with Stefan Kiszko are quite stark. |
Don't be silly. You cannot just assume dishonesty.
No one doubts that people can be dishonest, but there is no proper basis to say that this was a situation where someone quite purposely went out to get an person convicted whilst believing they were innocent.
Do bear in mind that the evidence was enough to persuade a jury too.
The instant resort to "the police were dishonest" simply makes no sense here. You should not put down to inexplicable random malice, what could be explained by confirmaiton bias, groupthink, mistakes, pressures of work etc. |  | | |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 22:29 - May 14 with 96 views | bluelagos |
| Got to feel sorry for this poor fella on 22:17 - May 14 by redrickstuhaart |
Don't be silly. You cannot just assume dishonesty.
No one doubts that people can be dishonest, but there is no proper basis to say that this was a situation where someone quite purposely went out to get an person convicted whilst believing they were innocent.
Do bear in mind that the evidence was enough to persuade a jury too.
The instant resort to "the police were dishonest" simply makes no sense here. You should not put down to inexplicable random malice, what could be explained by confirmaiton bias, groupthink, mistakes, pressures of work etc. |
I guess my experience of wholesale dishonesty by 100s of 1980s police may have coloured my view - fair point.
There is always the odd good apple in a cart of rotten ones. But you're right - the copper who took a confession from an innocent man, who failed to test his evidence to ensure his confession was genuine, who failed to find the actual killer - may have done all that with a sense of integrity and honesty that we expect of our police.
Or he might just have been a piece of sht who didn't give a fck for the fact that an innocent man was going to jail. Given the passage of time, we'll probably never know.
But I'll go with my view - which is backed up by personal experience of 1980s police being dishonest and behaving without an ounce of integrity. | |
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