| Talking of migration 15:03 - May 17 with 4367 views | bluelagos |
When do you think the politicians will be brave enough to explain that without sustained migration, we are in deep sh1t given the falling birth rates? Quick google suggests the UK rate is now around 1.5.
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| Talking of migration on 14:43 - May 18 with 466 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Talking of migration on 14:40 - May 18 by PimsNumber1 |
Total nonsense
1.2m immigrants claiming benefits
Uk residents birth rate is low because they can't afford children easily and child care is high
Immigrants are 'fine ' but mainly in low paid jobs or no jobs so probably a net burden on the economy .ie their contribution/ tax payments do not offset their benefits claimed eg NHS and other subsidies . |
Do you have a reference for your "stat" of 1.2M immigrants claiming benefits? |  |
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| Talking of migration on 14:58 - May 18 with 429 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Talking of migration on 14:43 - May 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you have a reference for your "stat" of 1.2M immigrants claiming benefits? |
Uk residents birth rate is low because of chosen lifestyles, careers, and the modern world generally. It has been in notable decline for a very long time, in line with the majority of other "1st world" nations. |  | | |
| Talking of migration on 14:59 - May 18 with 427 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Talking of migration on 14:58 - May 18 by redrickstuhaart |
Uk residents birth rate is low because of chosen lifestyles, careers, and the modern world generally. It has been in notable decline for a very long time, in line with the majority of other "1st world" nations. |
Did you mean to reply to a different post or is that a "no" on Pim's behalf? | |
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| Talking of migration on 08:41 - May 19 with 327 views | DJR |
| Talking of migration on 14:40 - May 18 by PimsNumber1 |
Total nonsense
1.2m immigrants claiming benefits
Uk residents birth rate is low because they can't afford children easily and child care is high
Immigrants are 'fine ' but mainly in low paid jobs or no jobs so probably a net burden on the economy .ie their contribution/ tax payments do not offset their benefits claimed eg NHS and other subsidies . |
If we assume the 1.2 million is correct, I believe the reference to benefits is to working age benefits, including universal credit.
The question then is what is meant by foreigners.
I assume it doesn't cover people like me who were born abroad but have British citizenship*, and therefore refers to people who hold a foreign passport, such as EU and non-EU citizens: that certainly seems to be what media reports suggest.
According to the independent Migration Observatory's analysis of the 2021 Census, there were 5.9 million foreign-born people without a British passport living in the UK.
This suggests 20% of such people are claiming benefits, which seems quite a small percentage to me, and I wouldn't be surprised is lower than for British citizens.
*At the 2021 Census, the foreign born population of England and Wales was over 10 million. [Post edited 19 May 8:49]
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| Talking of migration on 09:00 - May 19 with 311 views | Rimsy |
The problem with just bringing more and more people in, to help fund an aging population (and lower birth rates) is that in 30 or 40 years time all of these people will be retiring and need supporting. |  |
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| Talking of migration on 09:17 - May 19 with 288 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Talking of migration on 09:00 - May 19 by Rimsy |
The problem with just bringing more and more people in, to help fund an aging population (and lower birth rates) is that in 30 or 40 years time all of these people will be retiring and need supporting. |
Exactly - if someone tried to sell you an investment on that basis you’d be reporting them to regulators for pushing a Ponzi scheme. | | | |
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