Mckenna out!!! 16:30 - Aug 30 with 5025 views | Denny32 | Can't get in proper defenders ,and coach how to defend...im losing patience |  | | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 09:51 - Aug 31 with 1062 views | Bluemike31 |
Mckenna out!!! on 09:35 - Aug 31 by darkhorse28 | Emotions aside, and McKenna needs at least until November, you likely are in the wrong side of this. The more I look at it, the more obvious it is; that McKenna hasn’t ever built the core team dynamic here…, that’s not to detract from his coaching and what he has achieved. Morsy, Burns, Chaplin, Burgess, Walton (in league one) were the leadership group, he didn’t sign any of them, Wolf too was already here. That was one hell of a chunk of our success that Ashton and McKenna inherited. They added quality, coached the group very well, and we had one season where the alchemy was magic…., it was also the season in 45 years watching us, the small margins fell in our favour more than ever. The group was ripped up, and we’ve spent close to £190 million now gross. Sunderland and Leeds have achieved more in two games than we did in an entire season. We bought EFL championship players of the season in Sammie, Greaves, and Clarke, and they’ve all regressed massively, and they’ve been here over a year. Our recruitment strategy very clearly doesn’t exist.., we sign good players, but there seems no obvious plan or vision. Even the rhetoric around our recruitment is SO poor…, we signed young players knowing if we were successful, they’d be sold, and if we weren’t successful, they’d be sold. That 100% wasn’t the strategy sold to the owners. McKenna leveraged himself a champions league level contract, and has been awful ever since…, maybe a coincidence, maybe not, that’s a lot of pressure to put yourself under at such a young age. He’s clearly a great coach. He’s also clearly WAY short in a lot of areas, essential to be elite. Both can be true. This group won’t do better than 96 points, they won’t even be close. And that group cost 10 million…, not close to £200 million. Sorry. This isn’t progress. It’s not success. It’s not elite. Who’s to blame doesn’t matter. Long term there will need to be changes.., otherwise we can’t be successful. We could win every game this season .., then what? Our 1990’s WBA defence that was never elite at any point, how’s that going do in a premier league now five times the level the last time they couldn’t cut it. Shall we spend another £200 million next summer. Replace the defence and GK entirely? And half the rest of the group? Theres no plan, no vision, no togetherness, it doesn’t need to make you feel good to be true. What we do about it, is for another day, but doing nothing won’t be the answer long term. Look at Sunderland.., no legacy finances, or players, they’ve done more in TWO games than we did in a season! They are TOGETHER and have a team dynamic. We have t had that since McKenna disbanded the group Cook brought in, right decision probably, but he clearly can’t build that dynamic. I don’t think McKenna or Ashton fully understood what made the magic work. McKenna 100% thinks the answer to every question is on the coaching pitch…, it’s not .., most elite sides are built between the ears. Mo Salah would run over his grannie to be the best version of himself. Johnson and a few we’ve signed, wouldn’t cross the road to be that. Chaplin would.., Morsy would give you a black eye if you didn’t.., Burns too wanted it, Burgess did, Wolf at the time, bought in. We lost the traits that make a team. Replaces them with better quality, that doesn’t have the fire, the motivation, the hunger. Philogene, Nohnskn, Clarke, they wouldn’t play in our legacy group…, they’d be out injured after Sam have them a ‘straightener’ McKenna is a carrot motivator .., great when it’s going well. He doesn’t have the other side, and the bit that’s really not elite, he doesn’t have the awareness to know he needs that quality in the group. It’s poor.., 14 months results don’t lie.., players going backwards don’t lie.., watching us, doesn’t lie. Maybe your ego won’t ever let go of the fantasy you built, but don’t abuse people who probably will end up on the right side of the argument. If elite is established premier league, and that’s the level he’s still paid at, then it’s how he has to be judged. And it’s staggeringly short. This group of players should walk this league, and we need patience, but the last rebuild failed massively, and our WBA defence won’t ever make the standard, no coach can achieve that. New owners ‘incoming’ so let’s see how much patience they have. If it was your business.., £200 million spent, you would be beyond annoyed. That’s a lot of money in the EFL - FOURTY YEARS EFL back TV money we’ve spent, on new players in 18 months. There isn’t an option where we stay in the EFL without severe consequences. |
Brilliant post and completely correct. |  | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 20:44 - Oct 9 with 865 views | Chris_ITFC |
Mckenna out!!! on 16:54 - Aug 30 by Swailsey | It’s still too early to call for his head, but it isn’t nonsense to be kinda getting that way. We’ve been on a downward trajectory for a while, and he doesn’t seem to be getting the best from the players. |
N/T [Post edited 9 Oct 20:45]
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Mckenna out!!! on 20:45 - Oct 9 with 857 views | Chris_ITFC |
Mckenna out!!! on 16:41 - Aug 30 by brazil1982 | It's been a terrible start to the season. Big pressure after the international break, performances have to change otherwise the club and Manager are in trouble. |
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Mckenna out!!! on 20:50 - Oct 9 with 823 views | Swansea_Blue |
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Mckenna out!!! on 20:53 - Oct 9 with 808 views | Chris_ITFC |
It was always going to come together. It's Kieran bloody McKenna. Still baffles me how some can ever doubt him. |  |
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Mckenna out!!! on 21:05 - Oct 9 with 748 views | ReusersTown |
Mckenna out!!! on 20:53 - Oct 9 by Chris_ITFC | It was always going to come together. It's Kieran bloody McKenna. Still baffles me how some can ever doubt him. |
Clue, Ipswich fans don't doubt him. |  | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 21:20 - Oct 9 with 703 views | Bigalhunter |
Mckenna out!!! on 20:44 - Oct 9 by Chris_ITFC | N/T [Post edited 9 Oct 20:45]
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I love a decent thread resurrection. A TWTD tradition that always has the potential for some good ol’ fun. Personally don’t possess the photographic memory or time to bookmark and record gross stupidity for a subsequent revisit, but it’s always a promising source of amusement, particularly when the culprits re-emerge to try and justify their stance. Hopefully this one delivers, as it’s baby-sitting night and this England/Wales mismatch is quite boring, the grandkids have lost interest in waving the little flags I knocked up for a night of patriotism and I’m desperate for them go to bed so I can watch the Traitors. Over to Mikey, Darkhorse and the others……. |  |
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Mckenna out!!! on 22:11 - Oct 9 with 557 views | Chris_ITFC |
Mckenna out!!! on 21:20 - Oct 9 by Bigalhunter | I love a decent thread resurrection. A TWTD tradition that always has the potential for some good ol’ fun. Personally don’t possess the photographic memory or time to bookmark and record gross stupidity for a subsequent revisit, but it’s always a promising source of amusement, particularly when the culprits re-emerge to try and justify their stance. Hopefully this one delivers, as it’s baby-sitting night and this England/Wales mismatch is quite boring, the grandkids have lost interest in waving the little flags I knocked up for a night of patriotism and I’m desperate for them go to bed so I can watch the Traitors. Over to Mikey, Darkhorse and the others……. |
It’s the sensitive souls backtracking I enjoy. The stubborn ones are just laughable. |  |
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Mckenna out!!! on 22:18 - Oct 9 with 517 views | Denny32 |
Mckenna out!!! on 20:44 - Oct 9 by Chris_ITFC | N/T [Post edited 9 Oct 20:45]
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Its really scraping the barrel when someone resurrects my thread 😤 |  | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 22:25 - Oct 9 with 485 views | Chris_ITFC |
Mckenna out!!! on 22:18 - Oct 9 by Denny32 | Its really scraping the barrel when someone resurrects my thread 😤 |
How’s your patience fairing now? |  |
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Mckenna out!!! on 22:53 - Oct 9 with 408 views | FBI |
Mckenna out!!! on 22:18 - Oct 9 by Denny32 | Its really scraping the barrel when someone resurrects my thread 😤 |
Why? Does it cease to exist when it becomes proven wrong? |  |
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Mckenna out!!! on 23:13 - Oct 9 with 352 views | Rocky |
Mckenna out!!! on 16:31 - Aug 30 by Keno | F U C K OFF!!! |
Keno comes out of this with flying colours |  | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 23:33 - Oct 9 with 290 views | Bigalhunter |
Mckenna out!!! on 22:18 - Oct 9 by Denny32 | Its really scraping the barrel when someone resurrects my thread 😤 |
It’s, not its. Other than that, you’re not really entering into the spirit of things by just complaining that someone’s discovered the pile of poo you left on your own doorstep. Stand by your opinion and come out punching… [Post edited 9 Oct 23:37]
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Mckenna out!!! on 04:34 - Oct 10 with 132 views | Denny32 |
Mckenna out!!! on 23:33 - Oct 9 by Bigalhunter | It’s, not its. Other than that, you’re not really entering into the spirit of things by just complaining that someone’s discovered the pile of poo you left on your own doorstep. Stand by your opinion and come out punching… [Post edited 9 Oct 23:37]
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So you saying we will get promoted no problem 7 games in .?? |  | |  |
Mckenna out!!! on 05:03 - Oct 10 with 112 views | Kropotkin123 |
Mckenna out!!! on 04:34 - Oct 10 by Denny32 | So you saying we will get promoted no problem 7 games in .?? |
Sorry, when you've finished moving those goalposts, can you remind me where your original post says anything about promotion? Here is your original post for reference: Mckenna out!!! Can't get in proper defenders ,and coach how to defend...im losing patience |  |
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