| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? 08:22 - Oct 9 with 1419 views | bluelagos |
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| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 12:34 - Oct 9 with 292 views | GlasgowBlue |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 10:05 - Oct 9 by Guthrum |
Teddy Roosevelt got it for not much more (being the US President who hosted the peace conference which ended the Russo-Japanese War).
Just six years ago, Abiy Ahmed got it for ending a border war, shortly before conducting a bloody internal conflict and domestic political repression. |
And it went downhill for Aung San Suu Kyi after she received the Nobel prize. |  |
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| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:26 - Oct 9 with 181 views | 1Warky |
It's obviously a close call between this and the Nobel Prize for Literature. |  | | |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:35 - Oct 9 with 160 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 08:39 - Oct 9 by DJR |
It's probably too early to say but were there to be a lasting peace, why not?
It is certainly significant that the hostage families are praising Trump not Netanyahu, who has scuppered every proposal up till now. |
Potentially yes, even if his methods are irregular. On the other hand it seems a bit perverse giving it to someone who’s increasingly defying the law and showing authoritarian tendencies and who would have been up in court for inciting a resurrection if not for a political slight of hand. |  |
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| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:41 - Oct 9 with 145 views | DJR |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:26 - Oct 9 by 1Warky |
It's obviously a close call between this and the Nobel Prize for Literature. |
I think Robert Kennedy Jnr is a shoe-in for next year's medicine prize. |  | | |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:50 - Oct 9 with 131 views | reusersfreekicks |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 08:39 - Oct 9 by DJR |
It's probably too early to say but were there to be a lasting peace, why not?
It is certainly significant that the hostage families are praising Trump not Netanyahu, who has scuppered every proposal up till now. |
Really!!
Holy sh1t |  | | |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 21:55 - Oct 9 with 111 views | lowhouseblue |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 10:17 - Oct 9 by DJR |
According to Kamala Harris, Biden did much the same, as did Western governments until relatively recently.
EDIT: an extract from the article I linked above.
Yet, however entrenched the mutual hatreds, a consensus is building across the west that this conflict was desperately mishandled, including by European leaders who initially ceded responsibility to a US Democratic administration that romanticised modern Israel, misread how its government might react to the horror of 7 October – and how that would polarise the west.
Indeed, the mea culpas and self-justifications have been streaming out of Joe Biden’s former team. In her book on her doomed bid to become president, Kamala Harris writes: “I had pleaded with Joe, when he spoke publicly on this issue, to extend the same empathy he showed to the suffering of Ukrainians to the suffering of innocent Gazan civilians. But he couldn’t do it: while he could passionately state ‘I am a Zionist’, his remarks about innocent Palestinians came off as inadequate and forced.”
She adds that Benjamin Netanyahu never repaid the loyalty that Biden had shown because he wanted Donald Trump in the seat opposite him.
At its most generous, the Democrats misread the power dynamics. “We did not act like a superpower,” Andrew Miller, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for Israeli-Palestinian affairs, said recently. “Instead of beginning from the proposition that these were problems we could solve, we persuaded ourselves that there was little we could do to move our regional ally Israel.”
Trump did not have that inferiority complex. He used his unpredictability as his greatest diplomatic weapon but, like Biden, his special envoy Steve Witkoff became bogged down in trying to find a formula that guaranteed the release of all the hostages without Israel resuming the fighting, as it did in March this year. [Post edited 9 Oct 10:39]
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'She adds that Benjamin Netanyahu never repaid the loyalty that Biden had shown because he wanted Donald Trump in the seat opposite him.'
true. but what i don't understand is how netanyahu can survive any peace. surely if the process proceeds the coalition supporting him is gone. and then so is he. that is either a threat to the process past stage one, or offers the hope of some wider and more fundamental and genuine change? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 22:02 - Oct 9 with 84 views | WeWereZombies |
| So Donald for the Noble peace prize then? on 20:35 - Oct 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Potentially yes, even if his methods are irregular. On the other hand it seems a bit perverse giving it to someone who’s increasingly defying the law and showing authoritarian tendencies and who would have been up in court for inciting a resurrection if not for a political slight of hand. |
So unfair that Jesus went and experienced an insurrection after appearing in court... |  |
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