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Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now 14:36 - Nov 5 with 4984 viewsTNBlue

Rachel Reeves. Impending tax rises - Tories fault
David Lammy. Dangerous prisoners wrongly released - Tories fault
Failing to stop the boats - Tories fault.



They need to start taking ownership of their failures.
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You're a very strange individual. (n/t) on 21:16 - Nov 6 with 604 viewsGlasgowBlue

You're a very strange individual. (n/t) on 21:03 - Nov 6 by Bigalhunter

You actually checked back to see who’d downvoted you?

That’s true ‘obsession’ for ya, babe.

And there was me believing we were getting a calmer chameleon second time around…


Nope. I hadn't posted since lunchtime so picked up the thread where I left it.

Good to see you checking in tonight aL.


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You’re, not your……and yes I can.. on 21:36 - Nov 6 with 574 viewsBigalhunter

Can you explain.... on 21:09 - Nov 6 by Bloots

....your response to NthSuffolk earlier on this thread, while you are here?

Many thanks.
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..always got the impression from your previous contributions that you’re a right-leaning individual.

Your current disaffection with the mainstream parties merely reinforced that opinion.

Happy to accept I’m wrong if it upset you..

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You mean you were so desperate..... on 21:56 - Nov 6 with 547 viewsBloots

You’re, not your……and yes I can.. on 21:36 - Nov 6 by Bigalhunter

..always got the impression from your previous contributions that you’re a right-leaning individual.

Your current disaffection with the mainstream parties merely reinforced that opinion.

Happy to accept I’m wrong if it upset you..


....to try and look clever and stick your knife in, that you didn't even notice that I'd already responded to the post you were accusing me of ignoring.

I'd prefer it if you left me out of your strange pettiness.

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Yup, didn’t think you’d be back to add Nige to your political blacklist.. on 00:00 - Nov 7 with 476 viewsBigalhunter

You mean you were so desperate..... on 21:56 - Nov 6 by Bloots

....to try and look clever and stick your knife in, that you didn't even notice that I'd already responded to the post you were accusing me of ignoring.

I'd prefer it if you left me out of your strange pettiness.


Just goes to show you shouldn’t second guess anyone, whatever opinion you’ve formed of them.
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Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 09:07 - Nov 7 with 350 viewsGlasgowBlue

Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 00:21 - Nov 6 by reusersfreekicks

Which was a traditional joke shamelessly lied about


A point of order. It’s not a traditional joke for an outgoing Chief Secretary to the Treasury lo leave a humorous note for his successor. No other Chief secretary to the treasury has left a similar note to his successor.

People get confused because former Tory chancellor Reginald Maudlin passed incoming Labour Chancellor Jim Callaghan on the steps of the treasury in 1964 and said to him “Sorry to leave it in such a mess, old cock.” Maudlin and Callaghan were old friends and Callaghan thought Maudlin meant the office rather than the economy. Since the Byrne note was leaked a narrative has built up from Labour circles which changed Maudlin and Callaghan’s friendly verbal exchange to a humorous note.


As for Liam Byrne’s note. He claims that he left it for Phillip Hammond who was expected to become CSTT in the 2010. Again, they were good friends. Instead, due to the horse trading behind the scenes to form the coalition, Liberal Democrat David Laws was appointed Chief Secretary to the Treasury and it was he who leaked the contents of the note to the press.

Of course the reason why Liam Byrne’s note went down like a cup of sick was that the public perception of leaving a humorous note about having no money at a time when people were losing their jobs, homes and businesses was rather crass and ill judged. Something Liam Byrne has since said himself that he regrets.

Edit. From Liam Byrne himself:

Yet “the note” was not just stupid. It was offensive. That’s why it has made so many people so angry. And that why it was so wrong to write.

People’s anger – and my party’s anger – at me, will never ever match my anger with myself or my remorse at such a crass mistake. I made it easy for our opponents to bash our economic record by bashing me. And for millions of people and businesses who have had to make such sacrifices over the last five years, there was nothing funny about the national debt when the national task of cutting it has brought them such pain in their everyday life.
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