| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now 14:36 - Nov 5 with 4439 views | TNBlue |
Rachel Reeves. Impending tax rises - Tories fault
David Lammy. Dangerous prisoners wrongly released - Tories fault
Failing to stop the boats - Tories fault.
They need to start taking ownership of their failures. |  | | |  |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:39 - Nov 5 with 2808 views | TIB |
Don’t forget the Battle Of Hastings…the main cause of the upcoming tax hikes. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:42 - Nov 5 with 2780 views | positivity |
how long do you give them to turn round a crippled oil tanker of a country that has 14 years of negative momentum behind it?
18 months seems unrealistic | |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:51 - Nov 5 with 2724 views | ITFC_Forever |
It’s true though.
The Tories were so useless for so long, it will take longer than 16 months to improve matters. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:53 - Nov 5 with 2715 views | TNBlue |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:42 - Nov 5 by positivity |
how long do you give them to turn round a crippled oil tanker of a country that has 14 years of negative momentum behind it?
18 months seems unrealistic |
With regards the tax rises, can you explain how Rachel Reeves miscalculation is the fault of the previous govt? | | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:56 - Nov 5 with 2679 views | Stenvict |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:53 - Nov 5 by TNBlue |
With regards the tax rises, can you explain how Rachel Reeves miscalculation is the fault of the previous govt? |
Because that suits their narrative | |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:56 - Nov 5 with 2678 views | Zx1988 |
Given that approximately 260 prisoners a year are incorrectly released from either prison or court (I'm intrigued to know how you've come to the conclusion that *all* of them are dangerous), I would suggest that this is a much bigger problem than just the current Government. | |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:57 - Nov 5 with 2674 views | bluelagos |
Yep = appalling the way Labour put the country through Brexit - that Labour prick Boris Johnson so having the country at heart all along.
And how on earth did they think Liz Truss would a good PM - fooking Labour idiots. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:00 - Nov 5 with 2654 views | baxterbasics |
You think it's a stretch to blame the last round of tories? Well guess what, right leaning people are still blaming Blair/Brown, and left leaning people still blame Thatcher.
Maybe we should just start blaming the voters. We put these clowns into office after all. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:01 - Nov 5 with 2634 views | positivity |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:53 - Nov 5 by TNBlue |
With regards the tax rises, can you explain how Rachel Reeves miscalculation is the fault of the previous govt? |
if the tories hadn't put in their ridiculous election bribe tax cut, then we wouldn't have so much of a deficit and wouldn't need to claw back that money.
i do agree that labour were foolish to argue against tax rises, when it was patently obvious that they were necessary. | |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:02 - Nov 5 with 2618 views | Herbivore |
The Tories were still blaming Labour after 14 years in power so I think Labour can milk this for a good while yet given what a horrific state the Tories left the country in. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:09 - Nov 5 with 2572 views | badadski |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:00 - Nov 5 by baxterbasics |
You think it's a stretch to blame the last round of tories? Well guess what, right leaning people are still blaming Blair/Brown, and left leaning people still blame Thatcher.
Maybe we should just start blaming the voters. We put these clowns into office after all. |
I do blame myself - voted for them, have cost me over £10,000 in the last year through changes they have made and the contestant rubbish being spouted is worse than watching a drunk delia smith. Not condoning the previous mess but the total lies, back tracking and smug arrogance has created more of a mess than it needed too | | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:17 - Nov 5 with 2527 views | giant_stow |
The mess the tories made will be with us for a long time, boss. Labour not getting off to the best of starts doesn't change that. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:19 - Nov 5 with 2509 views | Blueschev |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:09 - Nov 5 by badadski |
I do blame myself - voted for them, have cost me over £10,000 in the last year through changes they have made and the contestant rubbish being spouted is worse than watching a drunk delia smith. Not condoning the previous mess but the total lies, back tracking and smug arrogance has created more of a mess than it needed too |
I really don't see any smug arrogance, they seem afraid of their own shadow, and did prior to the election in 2024. |  | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:19 - Nov 5 with 2507 views | Steve_M |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:01 - Nov 5 by positivity |
if the tories hadn't put in their ridiculous election bribe tax cut, then we wouldn't have so much of a deficit and wouldn't need to claw back that money.
i do agree that labour were foolish to argue against tax rises, when it was patently obvious that they were necessary. |
The thing about Jeremy Hunt's two National Insurance cuts was that no one really noticed any benefit from them. Just a grand piece of feckign things up for Labour and the country.
Labour should really have bitten the bullet on this a year ago though instead of trying to find other ways to make that gap up. |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:21 - Nov 5 with 2488 views | Basuco |
Rachel Reeves. Impending tax rises - Brexit causing huge hit to GDP, giving large sums to Tory donors for dodgy contracts not delivered. Liz Truss crashing the economy. Huge amounts of red tape to export goods causing drop in exports. No trade deal with the EU.
David Lammy. Dangerous prisoners wrongly released - Under funding caused huge job cuts in the prison service by Tories.
Failing to stop the boats - Brexit removed the Dublin agreement, immigration went up 4 fold following brexit, the return agreement was scrapped by the Tories. |  | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:43 - Nov 5 with 2347 views | bournemouthblue |
The Tories blamed Labour for two parliaments under Osbourne, how come Labour aren't even allowed a year and a half? |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:22 - Nov 5 with 2121 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
This should be no surprise. Reform is all about private sector over public services. The conflict of interest that their councillor runs the private care company should be no surprise. |  |
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| None of the major political parties.... on 19:34 - Nov 5 with 2091 views | Bloots |
....in this country will change anything noticeable for the positive.
They aren't in it for the good of the country.
At best they are all in it to play "politics" and at worst they are in it for the power, the perks and the self gratification.
They are all essentially a bunch of children desperate to get one over on the kids in the other gang.
It's pointless getting invested in it. |  |
| "I saw him at the match last week, what a legend. I was slightly overcome to be honest” - TWTD User (Nov 2025) |
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| When you say "major political parties".... on 19:35 - Nov 5 with 2085 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| None of the major political parties.... on 19:34 - Nov 5 by Bloots |
....in this country will change anything noticeable for the positive.
They aren't in it for the good of the country.
At best they are all in it to play "politics" and at worst they are in it for the power, the perks and the self gratification.
They are all essentially a bunch of children desperate to get one over on the kids in the other gang.
It's pointless getting invested in it. |
I presume you are including Reform who this applies to more than any of the others. | |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:47 - Nov 5 with 2047 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 14:51 - Nov 5 by ITFC_Forever |
It’s true though.
The Tories were so useless for so long, it will take longer than 16 months to improve matters. |
We need to be able to have an honest discussion about the damage the Tories did; it was significant. Unfortunately, it looks like things will be pretty grim until the 2030s and I’ve got no confidence we’ll be much better after that. That doesn’t mean the Labour can’t be challenged on what they’re doing; we need honest critique there too. Part of the problem for non-experts on the economy (like the vast majority of us on here I’d imagine) is that there are so many voices it’s hard to know who’s being honest. The usual tribal crap will get us nowhere (although it’s often easy to spot). |  |
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| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:48 - Nov 5 with 2034 views | mellowblue |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 15:01 - Nov 5 by positivity |
if the tories hadn't put in their ridiculous election bribe tax cut, then we wouldn't have so much of a deficit and wouldn't need to claw back that money.
i do agree that labour were foolish to argue against tax rises, when it was patently obvious that they were necessary. |
they could have reversed that as a matter of course. It would have been seen as acceptable. | | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:55 - Nov 5 with 1998 views | mellowblue |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:47 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue |
We need to be able to have an honest discussion about the damage the Tories did; it was significant. Unfortunately, it looks like things will be pretty grim until the 2030s and I’ve got no confidence we’ll be much better after that. That doesn’t mean the Labour can’t be challenged on what they’re doing; we need honest critique there too. Part of the problem for non-experts on the economy (like the vast majority of us on here I’d imagine) is that there are so many voices it’s hard to know who’s being honest. The usual tribal crap will get us nowhere (although it’s often easy to spot). |
The country has been living beyonds it's means for many years now. For decades on and off. More recently, since about 2008 with the banking crisis. No government can balance the books with out borrowing or heavily raising taxes. We really are in a mess. | | | |
| Getting a bit of tired of blaming the Tories for all the mess now on 19:58 - Nov 5 with 1979 views | GlasgowBlue |
That miss from Nunez last night. Thatcher's fault. |  |
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| Yep.... on 20:01 - Nov 5 with 1950 views | Bloots |
| When you say "major political parties".... on 19:35 - Nov 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I presume you are including Reform who this applies to more than any of the others. |
....if you're including them as a "major political party".
The same as the rest, in it for themselves.
Waste of time, effort and thought. | |
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