| Sudbury Town FC 22:33 - Nov 5 with 3236 views | Illinoisblue |
This opening to a statement from their CEO is an all-timer. Had a mild seizure reading it.
An update from the CEO
Following on from our appointing Tommy as Interim Head Coach following Danny's decision to leave the team due to a multitude of factors, Tommy had only a few days to prepare, one training session and the first match after the players were told about Danny’s decision, before Tom’s first match with them. Unfortunately, they lost that one but a well-deserved draw last night is a start on the right steps.
Don’t follow non league very closely but is every team in a constant state of financial crisis and players coming and going thru a revolving door? |  |
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| Sudbury Town FC on 22:43 - Nov 5 with 3109 views | onceablue |
It’s AFC Sudbury not Sudbury Town.
The non league scene has become really popular again as lots of previous Clubs with quite a lot of league experience are dropping done the levels.
It is quite common that non league clubs have higher attendances than league clubs.
Unfortunately Sudbury lost a few of their players to Needham Market and other clubs where wages are slightly higher
Sudbury play in Step 3 and probably average gates of 250-350 and are currently struggling near the bottom of the league
Good website for non league football is football web pages that show results crowds and tables down to step 7 |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:46 - Nov 5 with 3084 views | BlueBadger |
AFC Sudbury, should in theory, be a regional powerhouse at non-league level. They're reasonably well funded, have(for the level) decent attendance and have a REALLY good club structure and setup and yet...... |  |
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| Sudbury Town FC on 22:54 - Nov 5 with 3015 views | ITFC_Forever |
Always seems to be boom and bust.
Someone puts a load of money in, attracts all the talent in the region, money dries up, players leave, clubs sinks back down a level or two again. |  |
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| Sudbury Town FC on 23:11 - Nov 5 with 2902 views | Illinoisblue |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:43 - Nov 5 by onceablue |
It’s AFC Sudbury not Sudbury Town.
The non league scene has become really popular again as lots of previous Clubs with quite a lot of league experience are dropping done the levels.
It is quite common that non league clubs have higher attendances than league clubs.
Unfortunately Sudbury lost a few of their players to Needham Market and other clubs where wages are slightly higher
Sudbury play in Step 3 and probably average gates of 250-350 and are currently struggling near the bottom of the league
Good website for non league football is football web pages that show results crowds and tables down to step 7 |
Next you’ll be telling me Colne Dynamoes are no longer a thing! | |
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| Sudbury Town FC on 23:22 - Nov 5 with 2812 views | onceablue |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:46 - Nov 5 by BlueBadger |
AFC Sudbury, should in theory, be a regional powerhouse at non-league level. They're reasonably well funded, have(for the level) decent attendance and have a REALLY good club structure and setup and yet...... |
Problem is the non league scene in Suffolk is quite strong with a few decent teams playing at a high level.
You have 4 step 3 teams playing in same league as below
Bury Town
Needham Market
Leiston
AFC Sudbury
This tends to dilute the strength of each team and AFC Sudbury are the ones struggling the most.
The set up is excellent and they have a really good full time Academy probably only second to ITFC | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 06:31 - Nov 6 with 2425 views | gtsb1966 |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:46 - Nov 5 by BlueBadger |
AFC Sudbury, should in theory, be a regional powerhouse at non-league level. They're reasonably well funded, have(for the level) decent attendance and have a REALLY good club structure and setup and yet...... |
and I hope they go down. Currently bottom of the league. Long may it continue. |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 07:34 - Nov 6 with 2139 views | oldburian |
| Sudbury Town FC on 23:11 - Nov 5 by Illinoisblue |
Next you’ll be telling me Colne Dynamoes are no longer a thing! |
Never has been Colne, I think you mean Cornard Dynamos who played in the boys league along with the likes of Richard Wright and Kieron Dyer. There were another Cornard team, Spartans if I remember correctly. I referred them against Wright and co in a cup semi final. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 07:39 - Nov 6 with 2120 views | Sharkey |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:43 - Nov 5 by onceablue |
It’s AFC Sudbury not Sudbury Town.
The non league scene has become really popular again as lots of previous Clubs with quite a lot of league experience are dropping done the levels.
It is quite common that non league clubs have higher attendances than league clubs.
Unfortunately Sudbury lost a few of their players to Needham Market and other clubs where wages are slightly higher
Sudbury play in Step 3 and probably average gates of 250-350 and are currently struggling near the bottom of the league
Good website for non league football is football web pages that show results crowds and tables down to step 7 |
Thanks for the tip about the website. It's a thing of beauty with its attendance statistics! (I see Maldon & Tiptree's attendances are already getting quite close to Braintree's.) |  | | |
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| Sudbury Town FC on 10:03 - Nov 6 with 1823 views | Bluefields |
| Sudbury Town FC on 06:31 - Nov 6 by gtsb1966 |
and I hope they go down. Currently bottom of the league. Long may it continue. |
Any particular reason why?
I coached a girls team there for 3 yrs recently and know a lot of people involved. Great community club. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 10:07 - Nov 6 with 1798 views | gtsb1966 |
| Sudbury Town FC on 07:34 - Nov 6 by oldburian |
Never has been Colne, I think you mean Cornard Dynamos who played in the boys league along with the likes of Richard Wright and Kieron Dyer. There were another Cornard team, Spartans if I remember correctly. I referred them against Wright and co in a cup semi final. |
There was a Colne Dynamos. They beat Sudbury Town FC in the semi finals of the fa vase. Both Sudbury Town and Collne Dynamos went bust. Colne Dynamos were from the Burnley area. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 10:11 - Nov 6 with 1777 views | waveneyblue |
| Sudbury Town FC on 22:54 - Nov 5 by ITFC_Forever |
Always seems to be boom and bust.
Someone puts a load of money in, attracts all the talent in the region, money dries up, players leave, clubs sinks back down a level or two again. |
See Lowestoft Town for a perfect example of that..... |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:01 - Nov 6 with 1662 views | Sharkey |
| Sudbury Town FC on 10:03 - Nov 6 by Bluefields |
Any particular reason why?
I coached a girls team there for 3 yrs recently and know a lot of people involved. Great community club. |
I think it's because when Town and Wanderers 'merged' , the new club used both Wanderers' ground and Wanderers' colours. A bit like if the Bristol clubs merged and wore red shirts and white shorts and played at Ashton Gate. I think you'd have a lot of old Rovers fans hoping they get stuffed every week. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:04 - Nov 6 with 1639 views | cressi |
Like football at all levels all about money and the ownership I remember Murrs involved at Coggeshall they did OK for a bit now Maldon are throwing money at it hence why the manager went there I heard fifteen hundred a week not bad. Whilst Sudbury allegedly paying players around 150 to 200 a week clubs are paying between 750 and a thousand plus so very difficult. Crowds come from winning games plenty of empty seats Tuesday at Ipswich twenty seven thousand and if we don't win and perform it will drop further and less points will be required for tickets at away games. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:05 - Nov 6 with 1636 views | Bluefields |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:01 - Nov 6 by Sharkey |
I think it's because when Town and Wanderers 'merged' , the new club used both Wanderers' ground and Wanderers' colours. A bit like if the Bristol clubs merged and wore red shirts and white shorts and played at Ashton Gate. I think you'd have a lot of old Rovers fans hoping they get stuffed every week. |
That would make sense | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:54 - Nov 6 with 1445 views | brazil1982 |
| Sudbury Town FC on 10:07 - Nov 6 by gtsb1966 |
There was a Colne Dynamos. They beat Sudbury Town FC in the semi finals of the fa vase. Both Sudbury Town and Collne Dynamos went bust. Colne Dynamos were from the Burnley area. |
Very nearly made it to the football league. A few years back I would occasionally attend Colne FC matches, crowds of up to 600 sometimes. |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 12:09 - Nov 6 with 1377 views | Sharkey |
| Sudbury Town FC on 11:05 - Nov 6 by Bluefields |
That would make sense |
Looking at Wikipedia, I think I've grossly over-simplified it. Sorry!
For a start, looking at the Wiki page, Town's home colours are given as yellow shirts and blue shorts, so it's not really about that. Sudbury Town traced their roots back to 1885, making them only a few years younger than (Ipswich) Town and a few years older than nearby Colchester Town. My grandfather, born 1895, supported them and nobody else. I think there was a sense, despite a lot of complications (they merged with Wanderers for a period early in the 20th century) that Sudbury Town was the 'grand old club'
If you're interested, the Wikipedia page explains a lot, but not really the acrimony concerning the merger (takeover?) in 1999. I think there was a feeling that someone took advantage of one of those downs in the 'ups and downs' of non-league football clubs, mentioned above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_Town_F.C. [Post edited 6 Nov 12:23]
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| Sudbury Town FC on 14:22 - Nov 6 with 1077 views | gtsb1966 |
One last thing, the Dalai Farmer would go and watch the vase games. I saw him at a few and looked round and he was right behind me at Wembley in 89 god rest his soul. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:24 - Nov 6 with 1073 views | blueoutlook |
| Sudbury Town FC on 12:09 - Nov 6 by Sharkey |
Looking at Wikipedia, I think I've grossly over-simplified it. Sorry!
For a start, looking at the Wiki page, Town's home colours are given as yellow shirts and blue shorts, so it's not really about that. Sudbury Town traced their roots back to 1885, making them only a few years younger than (Ipswich) Town and a few years older than nearby Colchester Town. My grandfather, born 1895, supported them and nobody else. I think there was a sense, despite a lot of complications (they merged with Wanderers for a period early in the 20th century) that Sudbury Town was the 'grand old club'
If you're interested, the Wikipedia page explains a lot, but not really the acrimony concerning the merger (takeover?) in 1999. I think there was a feeling that someone took advantage of one of those downs in the 'ups and downs' of non-league football clubs, mentioned above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_Town_F.C. [Post edited 6 Nov 12:23]
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I used to go to see Sudbury Town regularly back in the day. Was there when they beat Brighton in the FA cup. Went to Wembley to see them in the FA Vase final. When they merged with AFC Sudbury I never went back anymore,nor did a lot of the Town support. Sudbury Town had the supporters, AFC had the ground they moved to. Was never a fan of the other lot, they had about 10 fans and a couple of dogs watch them back then. Sudbury Town could muster 350-400 fans for home games. Over 6000 in the ground for the cup match against Brighton. |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:30 - Nov 6 with 1045 views | Sharkey |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:24 - Nov 6 by blueoutlook |
I used to go to see Sudbury Town regularly back in the day. Was there when they beat Brighton in the FA cup. Went to Wembley to see them in the FA Vase final. When they merged with AFC Sudbury I never went back anymore,nor did a lot of the Town support. Sudbury Town had the supporters, AFC had the ground they moved to. Was never a fan of the other lot, they had about 10 fans and a couple of dogs watch them back then. Sudbury Town could muster 350-400 fans for home games. Over 6000 in the ground for the cup match against Brighton. |
Where did they (you) play Brighton? In the normal ground? Why was the Brentford game switched to Layer Road? | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:52 - Nov 6 with 995 views | blueoutlook |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:30 - Nov 6 by Sharkey |
Where did they (you) play Brighton? In the normal ground? Why was the Brentford game switched to Layer Road? |
It was played at Sudbury Town home ground (now a housing development). Officially 6000 odd in the ground but everyone estimated nearer 8000 it was absolutely buzzing and a brilliant result at the time too. I can’t for the life of me remember why it was switched. I remember it was,but for what reason has completely slipped my mind. Me and my mates used to alternate between Ipswich home games and Sudbury home games back then. We had some brilliant times watching Sudbury and some good memories just like we did/do watching ITFC. But as I say I’ve never been since the two Sudbury’s merged, that was a dark day. Well, that’s a lie now I think about it, because I’ve been down when Ipswich have played pre season friendlies there,always supporting Ipswich of course ! I only live about 10 minutes from the ground. | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:58 - Nov 6 with 960 views | Daninthecampo |
| Sudbury Town FC on 07:34 - Nov 6 by oldburian |
Never has been Colne, I think you mean Cornard Dynamos who played in the boys league along with the likes of Richard Wright and Kieron Dyer. There were another Cornard team, Spartans if I remember correctly. I referred them against Wright and co in a cup semi final. |
I played for the mighty Cornard Dynamos! We're going back nearly 40 years here but were the Spartans not from Springfield or Sidbury?
We got humiliated every season by Scowie! | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 15:06 - Nov 6 with 935 views | gtsb1966 |
| Sudbury Town FC on 14:58 - Nov 6 by Daninthecampo |
I played for the mighty Cornard Dynamos! We're going back nearly 40 years here but were the Spartans not from Springfield or Sidbury?
We got humiliated every season by Scowie! |
There was Cornard Dynamos, Cornard Celtic and Cornard Spartans . | | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 15:12 - Nov 6 with 905 views | Tractor_Buck |
No, not really. The vast majority of clubs are stable and go from one season to the next without too many dramas.
What skews it is the people who come in with what is a large amount of cash for that level, pick an otherwise stable, reasonably well supported team, announce that they are going to be in the EPL in x number of years time and employ an ex-league manager and ex-league players, alienating or in some cases actively driving away the support and volunteers that have kept the club running for ages. Sometimes it works (see Salford City, Fleetwood Town), but in the majority of cases the owner gets bored after a few years of slow progress and leaves the club in the lurch, or worse.
Current examples of the "we're gonna be in the league" crew are Real Bedford, who are owned by a crypto guy, and Malden & Tiptree. Billericay, AFC Fylde, Kettering Town and AFC Telford Utd have all been there and done that.
A guy local to me is now on to his second attempt at shooting a team up the leagues. Having failed with a team in the Northern Premier League which almost collapsed as a result, he's now trying it with a team that until last season was playing at county league level.
Non-league football is a great place to invest, if you are in it for the looooong haul, don't have ideas too far above your station and don't think you are the next Steve Parish. Otherwise, avoid and leave it to the local people who know what they're doing. |  | | |
| Sudbury Town FC on 15:45 - Nov 6 with 854 views | Sharkey |
| Sudbury Town FC on 15:12 - Nov 6 by Tractor_Buck |
No, not really. The vast majority of clubs are stable and go from one season to the next without too many dramas.
What skews it is the people who come in with what is a large amount of cash for that level, pick an otherwise stable, reasonably well supported team, announce that they are going to be in the EPL in x number of years time and employ an ex-league manager and ex-league players, alienating or in some cases actively driving away the support and volunteers that have kept the club running for ages. Sometimes it works (see Salford City, Fleetwood Town), but in the majority of cases the owner gets bored after a few years of slow progress and leaves the club in the lurch, or worse.
Current examples of the "we're gonna be in the league" crew are Real Bedford, who are owned by a crypto guy, and Malden & Tiptree. Billericay, AFC Fylde, Kettering Town and AFC Telford Utd have all been there and done that.
A guy local to me is now on to his second attempt at shooting a team up the leagues. Having failed with a team in the Northern Premier League which almost collapsed as a result, he's now trying it with a team that until last season was playing at county league level.
Non-league football is a great place to invest, if you are in it for the looooong haul, don't have ideas too far above your station and don't think you are the next Steve Parish. Otherwise, avoid and leave it to the local people who know what they're doing. |
I guess Forest Green Rovers can be added to the 'successes'. I've no idea at what level Rushden & Diamonds operate these days. Fylde always seems the craziest one to me - a largeish area with almost no people in it, surrounded by any number of football league clubs. [Post edited 6 Nov 15:48]
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| Sudbury Town FC on 16:47 - Nov 6 with 731 views | Tractor_Buck |
| Sudbury Town FC on 15:45 - Nov 6 by Sharkey |
I guess Forest Green Rovers can be added to the 'successes'. I've no idea at what level Rushden & Diamonds operate these days. Fylde always seems the craziest one to me - a largeish area with almost no people in it, surrounded by any number of football league clubs. [Post edited 6 Nov 15:48]
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Indeed, and love him or hate him, Dale Vince has stuck to his principles and stuck with a team that for whatever reason can't quite keep a foothold in the EFL.
R&D are now a phoenix club, AFC R&D. They're in NPL D1 Mid, step 4 on the non-league pyramid, having started back out in the United Counties D1, step 6. They're a superb example of the problem; as soon as the Dr Martens money ran out, there was no club.
AFC Fylde are a running joke in non-league. They had the kahunas to put 'Football League 2022' on their shirts and all their marketing material, but had to remove it pdq when they found themselves in the National North that year, having been relegated during the curtailed season and the following North and South seasons being declared null and void. [Post edited 6 Nov 16:53]
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