| If we get promoted this season, 23:08 - Nov 12 with 1569 views | itfc1108 |
Do people think that we would pay the penalty, to cancel the obligations to buy Cajuste and/or Akpom?
I know Chelsea did with Jadon Sancho, and even though more high profile, was fairly humiliating for him.
I think we would proceed with Kipre, and I can see us maybe trying to sign Azon permanently in January.
But I understand it's probably unfair to judge either way, so early in the season, on all 4 loanee's. [Post edited 13 Nov 0:48]
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| If we get promoted this season, on 08:31 - Nov 13 with 920 views | itfcjoe |
If it is not possible then you probably just suck it up and either utilise them or move them on again either on loan or permanently |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 08:33 - Nov 13 with 900 views | homer_123 |
Much like Taylor. It's evident KM sees a lot to like in Cajuste (in fact all of them) otherwise they wouldn't be here.
It would be a good problem to have, let's leave it there. |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 08:41 - Nov 13 with 870 views | PioneerBlue |
Lots of ifs and buts in there. People are very quick to write players off. Taylor has already been mentioned above, Cajuste has had 1 1/3 seasons in English football. 1 in a struggling PL side, 1/3 in a newly built Championship side, thats hardly stable state to adjust and perform. Im sure he can make a valuable contribution this season no matter how the season ends. | |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 09:05 - Nov 13 with 752 views | Harwich_Blue |
Seriously are we now questioning a player of Cajustes quality a quarter way in to the season , after the majority of fans were clamoring for him to sign and stated he is too good for the championship!!!!!!!!
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| If we get promoted this season, on 09:11 - Nov 13 with 721 views | lurcher |
Doubt it, they might become fringe players if we find better. But they could both really push on over the next few months and become indispensable. |  | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:25 - Nov 13 with 651 views | Cafe_Newman |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:05 - Nov 13 by Harwich_Blue |
Seriously are we now questioning a player of Cajustes quality a quarter way in to the season , after the majority of fans were clamoring for him to sign and stated he is too good for the championship!!!!!!!!
Wow |
It's incredible Cajuste has gone from purring Silver Spirit to a written-off banger while Jack Taylor has morphed into a classic Capri from an old Ford Anglia.
It's all "all or nothing" these days. |  | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:30 - Nov 13 with 621 views | MrPotatoHead |
Far too early for this talk, it wouldn't surprise me if 1 or both of those are players come the end of the season where we're very glad we can make perm.
If not, £10m - £15m on 2 players isn't that meaningful by premier league standards, we can get some nice loan fees or sell them on and recoup that I would think. |  | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 10:06 - Nov 13 with 473 views | Radlett_blue |
| If we get promoted this season, on 08:31 - Nov 13 by itfcjoe |
If it is not possible then you probably just suck it up and either utilise them or move them on again either on loan or permanently |
They could be squad players in a Town in the PL, but where do we find notably better players without mortgaging the club?
Yes, Sunderland seem to have recruited well so maybe it can be done. |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 10:17 - Nov 13 with 413 views | BloomBlue |
No, we aren't Chelsea who will happily waste millions.
We don't want to become a club who are saying to players come and join us and if you help us win success, as per your contract, we will shaft you as soon as we achieve success.
Yes all clubs will sell players after promotion etc, but to agree a deal and then pull out after agreeing a deal, will go against us.
Don't forget Chelsea paid £5m to pull out of the Sancho deal. |  | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 10:23 - Nov 13 with 395 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If we get promoted this season, on 10:17 - Nov 13 by BloomBlue |
No, we aren't Chelsea who will happily waste millions.
We don't want to become a club who are saying to players come and join us and if you help us win success, as per your contract, we will shaft you as soon as we achieve success.
Yes all clubs will sell players after promotion etc, but to agree a deal and then pull out after agreeing a deal, will go against us.
Don't forget Chelsea paid £5m to pull out of the Sancho deal. |
True. But you can say your knee really doesn't allow you to get the best if you throughout a game. When youre able you're incredibly gifted on the pitch but you seem to go through 5 minute bursts of excellence to 10 minutes of recovery.
Think cajuste has a lot of fans at town. But the truth appears that fitness wise he may stay on the pitch for 60 minutes if he starts but we only see the best of him for 15 of those.
I like cajuste. Hes got bags of ability. But his lack of fitness is so evident which is why taylor playing has really shown the differences in fitness levels of the two. |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 10:24 - Nov 13 with 394 views | GavTWTD |
If we get promoted there could be another lot of player "churn", especially if Sunderland buck the trend of relegation. We didn't get the recruitment right last time.
I still think Akpom will come good and Cajuste will be invaluable to us this season with injury and suspension. |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 10:31 - Nov 13 with 364 views | Guthrum |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:25 - Nov 13 by Cafe_Newman |
It's incredible Cajuste has gone from purring Silver Spirit to a written-off banger while Jack Taylor has morphed into a classic Capri from an old Ford Anglia.
It's all "all or nothing" these days. |
It seems many fans were expecting Cajuste to win games on his own in the Champ, whereas Taylor's physicality has allowed him to surprise those who wrote him off a year or two ago. |  |
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| If we get promoted this season, on 10:48 - Nov 13 with 285 views | HighgateBlue |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:25 - Nov 13 by Cafe_Newman |
It's incredible Cajuste has gone from purring Silver Spirit to a written-off banger while Jack Taylor has morphed into a classic Capri from an old Ford Anglia.
It's all "all or nothing" these days. |
Indeed. Cajuste was never a Silver Spirit, purring or otherwise, but equally he ain't no banger. He'll need to earn his place in this *Championship* side on merit, and I'm not totally confident he currently deserves it.
The disparity between writing off the rest of our PL midfield but drooling over Cajuste never made any sense (especially as Morsy had a better PPG than Cajuste in our PL season).
It is clear from the form of SS and Akpom that some players perform to different levels depending on a number of factors, including club context. They may never come good for Town, or they may eventually have a Taylor-like renaissance. None of these players were bad players, or have become bad players, but some will succeed here, whilst others won't.
Clarke and Philogene are other really interesting examples! Clarke was heroic for Sunderland and then became lightweight and ineffectual for us, before he suddenly very much wasn't! |  | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 10:48 - Nov 13 with 282 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| If we get promoted this season, on 09:05 - Nov 13 by Harwich_Blue |
Seriously are we now questioning a player of Cajustes quality a quarter way in to the season , after the majority of fans were clamoring for him to sign and stated he is too good for the championship!!!!!!!!
Wow |
I still think Cajuste is our best player after Leif [Post edited 13 Nov 10:49]
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| If we get promoted this season, on 11:00 - Nov 13 with 214 views | Bluemike31 |
For me the problem is not so much people talking Cajuste down now but more the ridiculous levels of bigging him up before, decent yes, great no, and definitely a luxury player what with his levels of fitness etc. | | | |
| If we get promoted this season, on 11:01 - Nov 13 with 203 views | Cafe_Newman |
| If we get promoted this season, on 10:48 - Nov 13 by HighgateBlue |
Indeed. Cajuste was never a Silver Spirit, purring or otherwise, but equally he ain't no banger. He'll need to earn his place in this *Championship* side on merit, and I'm not totally confident he currently deserves it.
The disparity between writing off the rest of our PL midfield but drooling over Cajuste never made any sense (especially as Morsy had a better PPG than Cajuste in our PL season).
It is clear from the form of SS and Akpom that some players perform to different levels depending on a number of factors, including club context. They may never come good for Town, or they may eventually have a Taylor-like renaissance. None of these players were bad players, or have become bad players, but some will succeed here, whilst others won't.
Clarke and Philogene are other really interesting examples! Clarke was heroic for Sunderland and then became lightweight and ineffectual for us, before he suddenly very much wasn't! |
"Clarke was heroic for Sunderland and then became lightweight and ineffectual for us, before he suddenly very much wasn't!"
Nicely put. As I said, it's all or nothing for most people. | | | |
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