| Another lenient sentence for the political elites 13:56 - Nov 21 with 2764 views | Mullet |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv
Treachery and corruption and he only gets this. Says a lot about the man who is pretending not to know him either.
How can anyone support these scumbags? |  |
| |  |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 10:48 - Nov 23 with 614 views | lowhouseblue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 10:44 - Nov 23 by WeWereZombies |
Perhaps you could restate your first sentence 'We have secret services and in this case they demonstrated that a successful case could be brought.' It is naive to think that this will always be the case, or that this type of interference is all that is being perpetrated by hostile foreign states. |
and your evidence of the secret services covering up russian interference or reform collaboration is .... |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:06 - Nov 23 with 586 views | WeWereZombies |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 10:48 - Nov 23 by lowhouseblue |
and your evidence of the secret services covering up russian interference or reform collaboration is .... |
That is not what I said, and I am surprised and disappointed in you for misrepresenting me. Please do not make that mistake again.
What should have been obvious to you, and to anyone reading my comment, was that I do not expect perfection from our security arrangements. That would be unreasonable. It is our responsibility to politically engage and continually develop awareness, as much as we can, of what is going on in an increasingly dangerous, in human existence terms, World. It is the most patriotic thing we can do. |  |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:13 - Nov 23 with 572 views | lowhouseblue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:06 - Nov 23 by WeWereZombies |
That is not what I said, and I am surprised and disappointed in you for misrepresenting me. Please do not make that mistake again.
What should have been obvious to you, and to anyone reading my comment, was that I do not expect perfection from our security arrangements. That would be unreasonable. It is our responsibility to politically engage and continually develop awareness, as much as we can, of what is going on in an increasingly dangerous, in human existence terms, World. It is the most patriotic thing we can do. |
quite, but always on the basis of established evidence. developing awareness on the basis of rumour and supposition is just spreading rumours and supposition. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:36 - Nov 23 with 552 views | WeWereZombies |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:13 - Nov 23 by lowhouseblue |
quite, but always on the basis of established evidence. developing awareness on the basis of rumour and supposition is just spreading rumours and supposition. |
That is a very poor attempt at an apology. | |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:46 - Nov 23 with 544 views | mellowblue |
At least he was prosecuted. Anthony Blunt wasn't, all swept under the carpet. The nuclear secrets spy Klaus Fuchs got 14 years as a comparison. |  | | |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:51 - Nov 23 with 535 views | lowhouseblue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:36 - Nov 23 by WeWereZombies |
That is a very poor attempt at an apology. |
oh grow up. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:00 - Nov 23 with 518 views | MattinLondon |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:46 - Nov 23 by mellowblue |
At least he was prosecuted. Anthony Blunt wasn't, all swept under the carpet. The nuclear secrets spy Klaus Fuchs got 14 years as a comparison. |
Anthony Blunt received immunity from prosecution in return for his full cooperation with the security services.
The fact that he was public school educated and knew a lot of influential people had nothing to do with this at all.
At least he was stripped of his knighthood within his lifetime. |  | | |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:24 - Nov 23 with 487 views | WeWereZombies |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 11:51 - Nov 23 by lowhouseblue |
oh grow up. |
Even worse, I will PM you about this.. | |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:55 - Nov 23 with 478 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 08:43 - Nov 22 by Mullet |
On a serious note, I do wonder if there is a mechanism to suspend Reform from parliament until an investigation is done. It's now proven and shown the party is compromised by a hostile nation.
Regardless of who it is, the security services should be involved to ensure the Russians are cleaned out of our government. |
That strays into very dangerous territory. No one suggested that the Labour party should be suspended from Parliament when John Stonehouse, Bernard Floud, and Will Owen were found top be spying for the Czechs during the cold war.
We don't suspend political parties we disagree with just because some opf their representatives have been compromised. That would be Stalin-esque. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 13:01]
|  |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:02 - Nov 23 with 466 views | mellowblue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:00 - Nov 23 by MattinLondon |
Anthony Blunt received immunity from prosecution in return for his full cooperation with the security services.
The fact that he was public school educated and knew a lot of influential people had nothing to do with this at all.
At least he was stripped of his knighthood within his lifetime. |
by that time all his fellow spies/ contacts had fled or been imprisoned more than 10 years earlier. There was little further information to be gained. Personally I don't think there was appetite at high level for another damaging/ embarrassing spy trial. | | | |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:11 - Nov 23 with 458 views | Mullet |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:55 - Nov 23 by GlasgowBlue |
That strays into very dangerous territory. No one suggested that the Labour party should be suspended from Parliament when John Stonehouse, Bernard Floud, and Will Owen were found top be spying for the Czechs during the cold war.
We don't suspend political parties we disagree with just because some opf their representatives have been compromised. That would be Stalin-esque. [Post edited 23 Nov 2025 13:01]
|
How senior were they though? I get that point but people seem very blasé about this. Especially when Nige has been so dishonest about his Russian ties again. | |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:17 - Nov 23 with 449 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:11 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
How senior were they though? I get that point but people seem very blasé about this. Especially when Nige has been so dishonest about his Russian ties again. |
Stonehouse was a member of the Cabinet. | |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:35 - Nov 23 with 439 views | Mullet |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:17 - Nov 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Stonehouse was a member of the Cabinet. |
That truly worrying - I’d suggest Tice and Farage pretending they barely knew or met Gill and the Russians involved does warrant intense scrutiny. How that’s done though is difficult | |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:49 - Nov 23 with 423 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 13:35 - Nov 23 by Mullet |
That truly worrying - I’d suggest Tice and Farage pretending they barely knew or met Gill and the Russians involved does warrant intense scrutiny. How that’s done though is difficult |
Stonehouse inspired Reggie Perrin. Left a pile of clothes on the beach and faked his own death. There were at least ten Labour MP's accused of spying for the Soviets during the cold war. Labour MP Bernard Floud killed himself after he was interviewed by MI5 before being offered a ministerial post. Bob Maxwell was most likely a triple agent, spying for MI6, the KGB and the Mossad. I can only think of one Tory, Raymond Mawby, who was spying for the soviets during the cold war. Probably more Labour because back then there would have been a kinship with a communist regime.
Our elected representatives have been spying for enemy countries for centuries. Loads more have taken backhanders to speak on behalf of other nations. Just have to root them out and deal with them. | |
| |
| Another lenient sentence for the political elites on 12:15 - Nov 30 with 286 views | DJR |
I'll have you know I was best friends with this man in my first year at university.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
He was Monday Club right wing in those days but I never sensed he was racist and I got on well with him.
He failed his first year and didn't come back so I lost contact, but a friend of mine saw him about 10 years later by which time he was living in France, and I suppose it is ironic for a Brexiteer when interviewed the other day still to be living in his chateau in France.
I might had that he wasn't fat in those days. [Post edited 30 Nov 2025 15:45]
|  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
