| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday 11:13 - Dec 3 with 742 views | BlueNomad |
Possibly difficult at this time but without it I can foresee something horrific on the pitch. |  | | |  |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:21 - Dec 3 with 715 views | bsw72 |
We aren't playing well, yet have only lost 4 times in 18 matches, sit within a point of the playoffs and only 5 points off automatic promotion.
I'm getting sick of the narrative that everything is falling apart. |  | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:51 - Dec 3 with 637 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:21 - Dec 3 by bsw72 |
We aren't playing well, yet have only lost 4 times in 18 matches, sit within a point of the playoffs and only 5 points off automatic promotion.
I'm getting sick of the narrative that everything is falling apart. |
Context always matters as you say, but looking at the table on its own doesn’t tell the full story. We’ve seen this before. Think back to Lambert in 19–20. We started well, top of the league, then sat in the play-off spots, but the performances were dropping off and people were using the league position as a shield to pretend it was all fine.
You can’t honestly tell me the last four games aren’t worrying. Wrexham was alright and we should’ve won it, but again we don’t take our chances. Hull basically handed us goals with awful defending and we still didn’t create much. Oxford was more of the same with sloppy defending on top. And last night was both poor at the back and toothless going forward.
This isn’t Premier League opposition anymore where we could cling to the “quality gap” excuse. It’s Wrexham, Hull, Oxford and Blackburn. Decent enough teams but nothing special in this division.
Even the most positive fans should be a bit concerned by what we’re serving up at the moment. And I’d put myself in that positive camp normally. |  | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:11 - Dec 3 with 590 views | positivity |
i'm better off in the stands than on the pitch these days... | |
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| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:38 - Dec 3 with 526 views | SitfcB |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:21 - Dec 3 by bsw72 |
We aren't playing well, yet have only lost 4 times in 18 matches, sit within a point of the playoffs and only 5 points off automatic promotion.
I'm getting sick of the narrative that everything is falling apart. |
It’s ridiculous, you’d think we were doing a Luton the way some are going on. |  |
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| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:49 - Dec 3 with 492 views | Chalk_Cheese |
who went to the first game of season at Birmingham, i thought they did a great job on getting the atmosphere charged up. i appreciate it was their first game back in championship from league one but so far id say that's the loudest game i have been too for crowd being worked up to make a great atmosphere. Only Norwich at home have we set a good atmosphere IMO.
yes we are all frustrated and believe we should be playing better etc etc. Lets make Portman round a place that's loud and proud, not sporadic happy clapping tripe |  | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:49 - Dec 3 with 487 views | bluefunk |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:51 - Dec 3 by Bellevue_Blue |
Context always matters as you say, but looking at the table on its own doesn’t tell the full story. We’ve seen this before. Think back to Lambert in 19–20. We started well, top of the league, then sat in the play-off spots, but the performances were dropping off and people were using the league position as a shield to pretend it was all fine.
You can’t honestly tell me the last four games aren’t worrying. Wrexham was alright and we should’ve won it, but again we don’t take our chances. Hull basically handed us goals with awful defending and we still didn’t create much. Oxford was more of the same with sloppy defending on top. And last night was both poor at the back and toothless going forward.
This isn’t Premier League opposition anymore where we could cling to the “quality gap” excuse. It’s Wrexham, Hull, Oxford and Blackburn. Decent enough teams but nothing special in this division.
Even the most positive fans should be a bit concerned by what we’re serving up at the moment. And I’d put myself in that positive camp normally. |
That wasn’t the point being made.
No one is saying everything is perfect, but as supporters you should create a positive atmosphere during the game. That was one of the strengths of our double promotion, the positive energy generated by the supporters in the ground.
FFS no one does their best work when someone (or 20,000) people is looking over their shoulder just waiting for an error. And yes, the team should be better and yes it’s part of their job to generate the atmosphere and yes, you’re entitled to moan, after all you’ve paid your money, etc etc BUT if you want to see us win the game, get promoted, get behind them
The clues in the name, as Joe Royle once said. Control what you can control, in this case the negativity. At least until after the game. [Post edited 3 Dec 12:50]
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| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:53 - Dec 3 with 461 views | cressi |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:38 - Dec 3 by SitfcB |
It’s ridiculous, you’d think we were doing a Luton the way some are going on. |
Luton only spent loose change on players Not over a hundred million no comparison. | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:54 - Dec 3 with 444 views | Blueschev |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:51 - Dec 3 by Bellevue_Blue |
Context always matters as you say, but looking at the table on its own doesn’t tell the full story. We’ve seen this before. Think back to Lambert in 19–20. We started well, top of the league, then sat in the play-off spots, but the performances were dropping off and people were using the league position as a shield to pretend it was all fine.
You can’t honestly tell me the last four games aren’t worrying. Wrexham was alright and we should’ve won it, but again we don’t take our chances. Hull basically handed us goals with awful defending and we still didn’t create much. Oxford was more of the same with sloppy defending on top. And last night was both poor at the back and toothless going forward.
This isn’t Premier League opposition anymore where we could cling to the “quality gap” excuse. It’s Wrexham, Hull, Oxford and Blackburn. Decent enough teams but nothing special in this division.
Even the most positive fans should be a bit concerned by what we’re serving up at the moment. And I’d put myself in that positive camp normally. |
Why is the win against Hull being framed as a disappointing performance? I've seen that a few times now and really do wonder what people expect. We controlled a tough away game, limited them to almost nothing, scored two and could've had more. It was a tough game that wasn't always pretty, but it was a solid away performance. |  | | |
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| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 13:00 - Dec 3 with 410 views | positivity |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:53 - Dec 3 by cressi |
Luton only spent loose change on players Not over a hundred million no comparison. |
not sure if luton made c.80m of sales though? | |
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| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 13:59 - Dec 3 with 323 views | bsw72 |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:51 - Dec 3 by Bellevue_Blue |
Context always matters as you say, but looking at the table on its own doesn’t tell the full story. We’ve seen this before. Think back to Lambert in 19–20. We started well, top of the league, then sat in the play-off spots, but the performances were dropping off and people were using the league position as a shield to pretend it was all fine.
You can’t honestly tell me the last four games aren’t worrying. Wrexham was alright and we should’ve won it, but again we don’t take our chances. Hull basically handed us goals with awful defending and we still didn’t create much. Oxford was more of the same with sloppy defending on top. And last night was both poor at the back and toothless going forward.
This isn’t Premier League opposition anymore where we could cling to the “quality gap” excuse. It’s Wrexham, Hull, Oxford and Blackburn. Decent enough teams but nothing special in this division.
Even the most positive fans should be a bit concerned by what we’re serving up at the moment. And I’d put myself in that positive camp normally. |
We went the other way with with Lambert, good start and fell away.
This is completely different, we haven't started well, strung 2-3 semi decent performances together then had 1-2 poor ones. Things have not yet clicked although we have seen glimpses.
At no point have we played particularly well for a whole game, yet are in touching distance of playoffs and even automatic promotion.
It's no coincidence that we were just getting into our rhythm and then we had an international break, so lost the momentum.
I am hoping that through December and January the squad will be together without interruptions, and things will flow. | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:36 - Dec 3 with 275 views | Vaughan8 |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:21 - Dec 3 by bsw72 |
We aren't playing well, yet have only lost 4 times in 18 matches, sit within a point of the playoffs and only 5 points off automatic promotion.
I'm getting sick of the narrative that everything is falling apart. |
oh a little run and we're right up there. However its gone from 2 points behind 2nd and a game in hand to this.
The league is close enough so you'll always be within 4-9 points of something.
Completely different I know but we had people saying similar things last season..........but if you used your eyes, you knew we were going to get relegated despite the "we're only 3 points from safety" stuff. | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:38 - Dec 3 with 259 views | Vaughan8 |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:54 - Dec 3 by Blueschev |
Why is the win against Hull being framed as a disappointing performance? I've seen that a few times now and really do wonder what people expect. We controlled a tough away game, limited them to almost nothing, scored two and could've had more. It was a tough game that wasn't always pretty, but it was a solid away performance. |
The result has distorted your brain about the performance. Before our first goal, it was one of the worst games i've seen in a few seasons.
We scored, they opened up. That's the reason we "could have scored more". However look at Oxford and Wrexham for when we don't score first (oh and last night) | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:40 - Dec 3 with 246 views | muccletonjoe |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 11:21 - Dec 3 by bsw72 |
We aren't playing well, yet have only lost 4 times in 18 matches, sit within a point of the playoffs and only 5 points off automatic promotion.
I'm getting sick of the narrative that everything is falling apart. |
Maybe not falling apart. But I think the days of the majority of supporters backing McKenna are well and truly over. |  | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:44 - Dec 3 with 231 views | Blueschev |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:38 - Dec 3 by Vaughan8 |
The result has distorted your brain about the performance. Before our first goal, it was one of the worst games i've seen in a few seasons.
We scored, they opened up. That's the reason we "could have scored more". However look at Oxford and Wrexham for when we don't score first (oh and last night) |
I really don't think it has. It's arrogant to think we'll just boss every game we play away from home. It was a bit of a slog for 70 minutes, but that's typical of a midweek away game in the Championship. Once we went ahead it was never in doubt. Job done.
I thought the Wrexham game was an entertaining encounter between two good sides.
Too many players had an off day against Oxford, it happens.
Last night was crap.
Things are not perfect at the moment, far from it. But we don't have to say everything has been crap just because some things have been. | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:47 - Dec 3 with 203 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 12:49 - Dec 3 by bluefunk |
That wasn’t the point being made.
No one is saying everything is perfect, but as supporters you should create a positive atmosphere during the game. That was one of the strengths of our double promotion, the positive energy generated by the supporters in the ground.
FFS no one does their best work when someone (or 20,000) people is looking over their shoulder just waiting for an error. And yes, the team should be better and yes it’s part of their job to generate the atmosphere and yes, you’re entitled to moan, after all you’ve paid your money, etc etc BUT if you want to see us win the game, get promoted, get behind them
The clues in the name, as Joe Royle once said. Control what you can control, in this case the negativity. At least until after the game. [Post edited 3 Dec 12:50]
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And you've responded to a point I wasn't making. I was responding to the second post, not the OP which suggested some fans are riding a narrative 'that everything is falling apart'.
I never once said don't support the team or contribute to a negative atmosphere. I simply said fans are well within their right to look objectively at the performances over and above our league position and suggest that progress is not being made, it's actually regressing.
Started the season badly, had a good block and have now seemingly taken a few few steps back.
That does not mean I wont support the team. | | | |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:52 - Dec 3 with 193 views | Vaughan8 |
| Positivity needed from the stands on Saturday on 14:44 - Dec 3 by Blueschev |
I really don't think it has. It's arrogant to think we'll just boss every game we play away from home. It was a bit of a slog for 70 minutes, but that's typical of a midweek away game in the Championship. Once we went ahead it was never in doubt. Job done.
I thought the Wrexham game was an entertaining encounter between two good sides.
Too many players had an off day against Oxford, it happens.
Last night was crap.
Things are not perfect at the moment, far from it. But we don't have to say everything has been crap just because some things have been. |
I think it just turns into another crap game without the goal.
Someone must know, have we got any wins from games we've let in the first goal? Possibly a few draws.
Recent game
Blackburn - let in first - DRAW
Oxford - let in first - LOSS
Hull - scored first - WON
Wrexham 0- no goal - DRAW
Swansea - scored first - WON
Watford - let in first - DRAW
QPR - scored first - WON
West Brom - scored first - WON
Charlton - let in first - LOST
I could go on but I'm boring myself now! haha
I know its the "you've got a better chance of winning if you score first" stuff, but if we score first, teams open up hence the 5, 4 and 4 goals in 3 games. | | | |
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