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I don’t really blame Coventry for being a bit salty about it tbh. Had Eccles not been booked just before it nobody would be talking about it, but given he was I can see why they would think it’s inconsistent refereeing. They weren’t identical, I think in their case he seemed to wait an age after the whistle then hammers it away and waves his arms around in protest, whereas Hirst could maybe argue he didn’t hear the whistle (not sure I’d buy it though). All people really want is referees to be consistent in their application of the rules, and I can see why you would look at those 2 incidents and ask why that doesn’t appear to be the case.
A bit naive from Hirst I thought, especially after seeing the ref book someone for it. I always say don’t give the referee a decision to make, the second you do you’re putting your fate down to chance. Maybe got away with 1 there but hey ho, we’ve had plenty go against us, especially last season.
I don’t really blame Coventry for being a bit salty about it tbh. Had Eccles not been booked just before it nobody would be talking about it, but given he was I can see why they would think it’s inconsistent refereeing. They weren’t identical, I think in their case he seemed to wait an age after the whistle then hammers it away and waves his arms around in protest, whereas Hirst could maybe argue he didn’t hear the whistle (not sure I’d buy it though). All people really want is referees to be consistent in their application of the rules, and I can see why you would look at those 2 incidents and ask why that doesn’t appear to be the case.
A bit naive from Hirst I thought, especially after seeing the ref book someone for it. I always say don’t give the referee a decision to make, the second you do you’re putting your fate down to chance. Maybe got away with 1 there but hey ho, we’ve had plenty go against us, especially last season.
Refs can’t really win - if they are consistent then they get criticised for being robots and not being personal to the match or circumstances. But if they aren’t consistent then they get criticised for being consistent.
If GH hadn’t have been booked he would’ve been carded. And if the Coventry lad had have been booked prior to kicking the ball away, I doubt whether he would’ve been booked again.
The second yellow card threshold always tends to be higher than the first.
I don’t really blame Coventry for being a bit salty about it tbh. Had Eccles not been booked just before it nobody would be talking about it, but given he was I can see why they would think it’s inconsistent refereeing. They weren’t identical, I think in their case he seemed to wait an age after the whistle then hammers it away and waves his arms around in protest, whereas Hirst could maybe argue he didn’t hear the whistle (not sure I’d buy it though). All people really want is referees to be consistent in their application of the rules, and I can see why you would look at those 2 incidents and ask why that doesn’t appear to be the case.
A bit naive from Hirst I thought, especially after seeing the ref book someone for it. I always say don’t give the referee a decision to make, the second you do you’re putting your fate down to chance. Maybe got away with 1 there but hey ho, we’ve had plenty go against us, especially last season.
Agree, I think the difference was Eccles looked to smash the ball as far away as he could deliberately, Hirst carried on and hit his shot. Could certainly have been booked for it, though. Wonder if the ref considered the first yellow was harsh and also whether there may have been some doubt about the offside, which was close but the linesman got it right.
Refs can’t really win - if they are consistent then they get criticised for being robots and not being personal to the match or circumstances. But if they aren’t consistent then they get criticised for being consistent.
If GH hadn’t have been booked he would’ve been carded. And if the Coventry lad had have been booked prior to kicking the ball away, I doubt whether he would’ve been booked again.
The second yellow card threshold always tends to be higher than the first.
"The second yellow card threshold always tends to be higher than the first."
Which is true and gives the ref the accusation of inconsistency. I think the ref should have a 10 minute sin bin option for certain scenarios. Even with a lttle leniency thrown in, soft second yellows are so common now.
I don’t really blame Coventry for being a bit salty about it tbh. Had Eccles not been booked just before it nobody would be talking about it, but given he was I can see why they would think it’s inconsistent refereeing. They weren’t identical, I think in their case he seemed to wait an age after the whistle then hammers it away and waves his arms around in protest, whereas Hirst could maybe argue he didn’t hear the whistle (not sure I’d buy it though). All people really want is referees to be consistent in their application of the rules, and I can see why you would look at those 2 incidents and ask why that doesn’t appear to be the case.
A bit naive from Hirst I thought, especially after seeing the ref book someone for it. I always say don’t give the referee a decision to make, the second you do you’re putting your fate down to chance. Maybe got away with 1 there but hey ho, we’ve had plenty go against us, especially last season.
Indeed. If you consider the booking is for dissent as much as time wasting (especially in a multi-ball system where the player wouldn't have been booked had he picked the ball up and held on to it while he chatted with the referee and then dropped it away from the free kick), you can see a clear difference between the two incidents. That said, I think their player was booked because O'Shea was in the ref's ear and, had Hirst not already been in the book, their protests would probably have led to him booking Hirst too.
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