| "Bidding War for Muric" 12:47 - Jan 6 with 5208 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 05:30 - Jan 8 with 522 views | Warkystache |
Someone I know met Muric when he played for Burnley and said he was a strange bloke - quiet but arrogant. He couldn't believe we paid the money we did for him. Burnley fans didn't like him, performances were very up and down and he'd have three or four nightmares for one good showing.
Their defence was hardly any less porous than ours last season. |  |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:47 - Jan 8 with 416 views | MalcolmBlue |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 14:19 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
We're not playing a different style of play, Walton is still expected to be heavily involved with the ball at his feet and he looks far more capable at that part of the game than Muric did. Palmer made zero errors leading to goals in the Prem last session, same with Walton. Appreciate that there are aspects of Muric's game where he's superior but I can't agree that he's a better candidate to play in goal for us overall when he's so prone to frequent catastrophic errors. |
Bear in mind that Walton has been at the club since before KMc, so he’s had plenty of time to train how KMc likes us to play. Muric was a great keeper, the fact he’s Sassuolo’s best player most games isn’t much of a surprise. |  |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:51 - Jan 8 with 407 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:47 - Jan 8 by MalcolmBlue |
Bear in mind that Walton has been at the club since before KMc, so he’s had plenty of time to train how KMc likes us to play. Muric was a great keeper, the fact he’s Sassuolo’s best player most games isn’t much of a surprise. |
Can't agree that he is a great keeper based on the evidence I've seen. He was poor for us and poor for Burnley. Glad he seems to be doing better in Italy and maybe it suits him more there, at least we'll get most of our money back. |  |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:57 - Jan 8 with 385 views | tractorboy1978 |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:51 - Jan 8 by Herbivore |
Can't agree that he is a great keeper based on the evidence I've seen. He was poor for us and poor for Burnley. Glad he seems to be doing better in Italy and maybe it suits him more there, at least we'll get most of our money back. |
Not sure that is true. Was in Championship team of the season at Burnley and then only played 10 times in the PL. Even then I believe they were statistically better with him in the team than Trafford.
Statistically he was our best keeper last season too.
His problem is that he's erratic and has these brain farts (and his future here with the fans has been made untenable). But he's in a totally different league generally to Palmer and Walton IMO. |  | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:01 - Jan 8 with 380 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 08:57 - Jan 8 by tractorboy1978 |
Not sure that is true. Was in Championship team of the season at Burnley and then only played 10 times in the PL. Even then I believe they were statistically better with him in the team than Trafford.
Statistically he was our best keeper last season too.
His problem is that he's erratic and has these brain farts (and his future here with the fans has been made untenable). But he's in a totally different league generally to Palmer and Walton IMO. |
People who advocate for Muric always suggest like his massive errors are just a small aside rather than a fundamental part of his DNA as a keeper. He could be Buffon 90% of the time but if he practically throws it in his own goal once every few games then he's not much use to anyone. That's been the story of his career, certainly up to this spell on loan at Sassuolo. You could see the defence had very little trust in him, he didn't communicate and you could never rely on him to do what you'd expect a professional keeper to do. Sure he made the odd excellent save and commanded his box well (mostly) but he was also a huge liability. | |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:08 - Jan 8 with 367 views | tractorboy1978 |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:01 - Jan 8 by Herbivore |
People who advocate for Muric always suggest like his massive errors are just a small aside rather than a fundamental part of his DNA as a keeper. He could be Buffon 90% of the time but if he practically throws it in his own goal once every few games then he's not much use to anyone. That's been the story of his career, certainly up to this spell on loan at Sassuolo. You could see the defence had very little trust in him, he didn't communicate and you could never rely on him to do what you'd expect a professional keeper to do. Sure he made the odd excellent save and commanded his box well (mostly) but he was also a huge liability. |
I think he made some errors that were glaringly obvious and of course (rightly) gets criticised for them. Harder to quantify the errors that Palmer made last season though as they were more subtle. We had a spell last season where virtually every shot beat him. I thought he was absolute crap a couple of games aside but many people didn't seem to see that. | | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:12 - Jan 8 with 345 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:08 - Jan 8 by tractorboy1978 |
I think he made some errors that were glaringly obvious and of course (rightly) gets criticised for them. Harder to quantify the errors that Palmer made last season though as they were more subtle. We had a spell last season where virtually every shot beat him. I thought he was absolute crap a couple of games aside but many people didn't seem to see that. |
Muric made the most errors leading to goals in the league, despite only playing half a season. | |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:37 - Jan 8 with 314 views | BlueBoots |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:08 - Jan 8 by tractorboy1978 |
I think he made some errors that were glaringly obvious and of course (rightly) gets criticised for them. Harder to quantify the errors that Palmer made last season though as they were more subtle. We had a spell last season where virtually every shot beat him. I thought he was absolute crap a couple of games aside but many people didn't seem to see that. |
Example being goals conceded from set pieces - 3 goals in our first 26 matches, and 11 goals in our last 12 matches (hell...conceded 3 of them just in the Man U game). I know you defend those as a team, but having a keeper that would come out and make it look so easy to claim everything in the air in my opinion got taken for granted, whereas the obvious errors got seized upon because we ended up punished for them (even the very best goalkeepers make a few every season - David Raya made 9 errors last season that led to a chance, and got away without conceding a goal from any of them) [Post edited 8 Jan 11:20]
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 10:04 - Jan 8 with 288 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:37 - Jan 8 by BlueBoots |
Example being goals conceded from set pieces - 3 goals in our first 26 matches, and 11 goals in our last 12 matches (hell...conceded 3 of them just in the Man U game). I know you defend those as a team, but having a keeper that would come out and make it look so easy to claim everything in the air in my opinion got taken for granted, whereas the obvious errors got seized upon because we ended up punished for them (even the very best goalkeepers make a few every season - David Raya made 9 errors last season that led to a chance, and got away without conceding a goal from any of them) [Post edited 8 Jan 11:20]
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Raya played more than half a season. Muric managed the most errors leading to goals in the league in comparatively few performances compared to other keepers in the league. The season before on a per 90 basis he made more errors leading to goals than any other keeper in the league. The errors are not an anomaly, he's been error prone throughout his career. He has some very good attributes but those are overshadowed by his propensity to have a complete howler that ends up costing you points. The knock on effect those errors have is huge and they accumulate to a point that you just can't risk playing him. | |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 10:10 - Jan 8 with 283 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 09:37 - Jan 8 by BlueBoots |
Example being goals conceded from set pieces - 3 goals in our first 26 matches, and 11 goals in our last 12 matches (hell...conceded 3 of them just in the Man U game). I know you defend those as a team, but having a keeper that would come out and make it look so easy to claim everything in the air in my opinion got taken for granted, whereas the obvious errors got seized upon because we ended up punished for them (even the very best goalkeepers make a few every season - David Raya made 9 errors last season that led to a chance, and got away without conceding a goal from any of them) [Post edited 8 Jan 11:20]
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He didn't "come out and make it look so easy to claim everything in the air" though. If he did, the defence wouldn't have looked so edgy over when he was going to do it and when he wasn't going to bother. Look at the goal that lost us the 4-3 to Brentford as an example. A dominant keeper just shouts at his defender and takes that out of the air, rather than gawping at it until it just drifts past him.
Even if he had been as good at commanding his area as people seem to claim he was, the finest you can say is it stopped us conceding more goals in games we went on to lose anyway. Other than a point against Brighton, and possibly one against Fulham, nobody can identify any points his performances actually directly gained us. Palmer made an astonishing game-saving stop against Villa on his debut. | | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 10:58 - Jan 8 with 254 views | cressi |
The English Premiership so much faster than the Italian league so probably his more suited for that as his decision making was slow and at times suicidal so get the most money possible and move on. | | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:04 - Jan 8 with 244 views | NthQldITFC |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:21 - Jan 7 by FoghornGleghorn |
Nice, I didn't sea that one. |
Picked up a groyne strain, apparently. |  |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:16 - Jan 8 with 223 views | dan1878_ |
He is the worst goal keeper I have ever seen play in a town shirt The stats may say he made 5 errors leading to goals, but he made many more errors that won't be put down on the stats, 2 goals against city away, both bournmouth goals at home, the 4th away to brentford, newcastle at home where he played a hosptial pass to cajuste, both saints goals at home, and thats just off the top of my head. He had 2 very good games in spurs and brighton away and that is it. For what it is worth I also thnk Palmer and Walton are not good enough and I would buy 2 keepers in the summer. |  | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:17 - Jan 8 with 219 views | BlueBoots |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 10:10 - Jan 8 by FoghornGleghorn |
He didn't "come out and make it look so easy to claim everything in the air" though. If he did, the defence wouldn't have looked so edgy over when he was going to do it and when he wasn't going to bother. Look at the goal that lost us the 4-3 to Brentford as an example. A dominant keeper just shouts at his defender and takes that out of the air, rather than gawping at it until it just drifts past him.
Even if he had been as good at commanding his area as people seem to claim he was, the finest you can say is it stopped us conceding more goals in games we went on to lose anyway. Other than a point against Brighton, and possibly one against Fulham, nobody can identify any points his performances actually directly gained us. Palmer made an astonishing game-saving stop against Villa on his debut. |
Regarding your second paragraph...so Muric didn't make an injury time save from a Solanke shot (chance gifted to him by some pretty ropey defending) that helped us to the win at Spurs? People really do seem to have developed a selective memory regarding his performances! | |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:18 - Jan 8 with 218 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:04 - Jan 8 by NthQldITFC |
Picked up a groyne strain, apparently. |
 Good work by NthQldITFC...... GREAT WORK BY NthQldITFC!!! | | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:49 - Jan 8 with 175 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:17 - Jan 8 by BlueBoots |
Regarding your second paragraph...so Muric didn't make an injury time save from a Solanke shot (chance gifted to him by some pretty ropey defending) that helped us to the win at Spurs? People really do seem to have developed a selective memory regarding his performances! |
I'm sure that's happening plenty on both sides, in amongst all of the selective reading of statistics about Palmer and Walton's games in which they weren't directly at fault for goals and which completely disregard what was happening across the entire team from January onwards.
Muric appears amongst lists of the Premiership's all-time top sources of mistakes leading directly to goals despite having played substantially fewer Premiership minutes than anybody else in those lists, but sure, let's keep thinking McK only dropped him because he got unfairly booed in a friendly several months into the future. | | | |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 12:50 - Jan 8 with 132 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:17 - Jan 8 by BlueBoots |
Regarding your second paragraph...so Muric didn't make an injury time save from a Solanke shot (chance gifted to him by some pretty ropey defending) that helped us to the win at Spurs? People really do seem to have developed a selective memory regarding his performances! |
To be fair, the selective memory thing cuts both ways. | |
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| "Bidding War for Muric" on 12:56 - Jan 8 with 117 views | Herbivore |
| "Bidding War for Muric" on 11:49 - Jan 8 by FoghornGleghorn |
I'm sure that's happening plenty on both sides, in amongst all of the selective reading of statistics about Palmer and Walton's games in which they weren't directly at fault for goals and which completely disregard what was happening across the entire team from January onwards.
Muric appears amongst lists of the Premiership's all-time top sources of mistakes leading directly to goals despite having played substantially fewer Premiership minutes than anybody else in those lists, but sure, let's keep thinking McK only dropped him because he got unfairly booed in a friendly several months into the future. |
Indeed, he's 21st on the all-time list for mistakes leading to goals despite playing less than one full season in terms of appearances. On a per game basis, he tops the league by a VERY long way.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/most-errors-leading-to-goal-in-premier-league-hi [Post edited 8 Jan 12:59]
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