| “King of the North” 03:02 - Jun 19 with 1459 views | Perublue |
About to win it seems.. I think in recent days it has looked the most likely outcome… I suppose the only question is how many did restore take from reform.
Aberdeen .. who saw that coming too 😮 |  |
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| “King of the North” on 18:22 - Jun 19 with 127 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| “King of the North” on 15:59 - Jun 19 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we can take from last night's results ius that Farage will never become Prime Minister.
In Makerfield tactical voting kept Reform out of a constituency where they hold every council seat and Aberdeen South showed that the Tories are not dead and buried. |
Don't get too carried away with that Tories result. Basically no other party campaigned there and the Tories gave it everything they had. Combine that with the SNP Scandal and it actually isn't that impressive IMO.
They came a distant second, and only a few hundred votes ahead of Reform, in the other Scottish by-election. |  |
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| “King of the North” on 18:27 - Jun 19 with 107 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| “King of the North” on 18:22 - Jun 19 by JammyDodgerrr |
Don't get too carried away with that Tories result. Basically no other party campaigned there and the Tories gave it everything they had. Combine that with the SNP Scandal and it actually isn't that impressive IMO.
They came a distant second, and only a few hundred votes ahead of Reform, in the other Scottish by-election. |
Glassers has also conveniently ignored the 2.2% they polled in Makerfield, well behind even Restore. |  |
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| “King of the North” on 18:34 - Jun 19 with 81 views | GlasgowBlue |
| “King of the North” on 18:22 - Jun 19 by JammyDodgerrr |
Don't get too carried away with that Tories result. Basically no other party campaigned there and the Tories gave it everything they had. Combine that with the SNP Scandal and it actually isn't that impressive IMO.
They came a distant second, and only a few hundred votes ahead of Reform, in the other Scottish by-election. |
I'm not getting carried away. I'm saying that their vote share will hold up enough to stop Farage becoming PM.
I really wish people would actually red what is posted rather than what they want to read. [Post edited 19 Jun 18:35]
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| “King of the North” on 18:37 - Jun 19 with 75 views | positivity |
| “King of the North” on 18:06 - Jun 19 by GlasgowBlue |
You'd be daft to underestimate them. The Tories have been polling slightly ahead or level with Labour and Kemi has one of the best approval ratings of the party leaders.
They won't win the next election, or the one after but they will perform well enough to keep Farage out of number 10. [Post edited 19 Jun 18:32]
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where do you think tories are voting now? tactically to keep reform out or tactically to keep labour out?
if they start to do well, i think badenoch will start to get more scrutiny of things like her decision to attend the "anti-woke davos" in london with the farages, pochins et al.
i think she'd be better off heading towards the centre ground than positioning herself as a trussalike culture warrior |  |
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| “King of the North” on 19:00 - Jun 19 with 40 views | GlasgowBlue |
| “King of the North” on 18:37 - Jun 19 by positivity |
where do you think tories are voting now? tactically to keep reform out or tactically to keep labour out?
if they start to do well, i think badenoch will start to get more scrutiny of things like her decision to attend the "anti-woke davos" in london with the farages, pochins et al.
i think she'd be better off heading towards the centre ground than positioning herself as a trussalike culture warrior |
It's hard to judge as they are polling around the 19-20% mark which, like Labour, is pretty much their core base. Any Tories tempted to vote Reform have already been lost to them.
Some would say that lurching further to the right may peel off some of the Reform voters but I don't think that will work. It hasn't for Labour.
Better to go centre right. Won't do them much good in the short term though.
We get a lot of tactical voting up here. Tories voted Labour in Dunbarton to keep out the SNP and elect Jackie Baillie. In one of the Edinburgh constituencies, I forget which, Labour votes went to the Tories, again to keep out the SNP.
I think we will see a lot more of this in England next time around where it is a two horse race as it was in Makerfield. The Green vote there was 0.7% there. Whereas the Greens are polling nationally at around 15%. So you would have to be as thick as two short planks to believe that the Green vote in Makerfield is a reflection of how the Greens will perform nationally in a General Election and thet Polanski is now a has been. Likewise the Tories are polling around 19-20% nationally but only polled 2.2% in Makerfield.
I think it's going to be a hung Parliament next time aound with a lot of tactical voting on a constituency by constituency basis. [Post edited 19 Jun 19:46]
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