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Mexico v England 20:59 - Jul 1 with 4805 viewsZx1988

Surprised to see that the bookies have England as favourites on Monday morning, especially with the match being held at the Aztexa.

England are 8/13 to qualify, with the Mexicans at 6/5. I'd have thought that England's form, and Mexico's record at home, would make the Mexicans firm favourites?

That said, I do wonder how we'll fare against a team who'll actually want to play.

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Mexico v England on 19:16 - Jul 3 with 557 viewsRyorry

Mexico v England on 18:56 - Jul 3 by TJS

Don’t know how quickly Bobby Robson’s England side arrived in Mexico City to play Paraguay in 1986 but they played their last group game at 500m above sea level on 11th June and beat Paraguay 3-0 in Mexico City on 18th June.


Against Paraguay, not an already acclimatised Mexico that were used to the conditions.

Baffled as to why people just don’t want to, or can’t, see the physical, biological disadvantage other teams are at when playing Mexico at the Aztec.

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Mexico v England on 21:02 - Jul 3 with 503 viewsSmoresy

Mexico v England on 15:17 - Jul 3 by Trequartista

It's not quite as impressive as it might seem



This misses out the two wins against Brazil when the Azteca was branded Mexico City Stadium. These are the games they've played against "top teams" since 1970 from what I can tell - patchy knowledge of those eras. I included all the big current names and those I expect were a big name in that particular period.

0-0 v Soviet Union 1970
0-0 v Soviet Union 1970
1-0 v Belgium 1970
0-0 v Soviet Union 1971
2-0 v Argentina 1973
1-1 v Argentina 1975
2-2 v Germany 1977
1-3 v Spain 1981
1-1 v Italy 1985
1-0 v England 1985
2-0 v Germany 1985
1-0 v Soviet Union 1986
0-0 v Germany 1993
0-0 v Colombia 1994
4-3 v Brazil 1999
1-0 v Brazil 2003
1-0 v Brazil 2003
1-1 v Spain 2010
0-0 v Portugal 2025

My own conclusion from this list is that few top sides have opted to play there of late, plus plenty of draws.
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Mexico v England on 21:04 - Jul 3 with 489 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Mexico v England on 18:04 - Jul 3 by Ryorry

I don't see as big a margin as that. Tuchel has the brain to plan specifically for this one.

We'll need a set-up that's defensively strong, keeps possession so we're not chasing the ball, and makes the most of set pieces + players coming off the bench.


Have you watched England defend so far in this tournament?

I'm sorry but 3-0 sounds about right for me. I actually think we would struggle to win without the effect of the altitude.

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Mexico v England on 21:05 - Jul 3 with 484 viewsZx1988

Mexico v England on 19:16 - Jul 3 by Ryorry

Against Paraguay, not an already acclimatised Mexico that were used to the conditions.

Baffled as to why people just don’t want to, or can’t, see the physical, biological disadvantage other teams are at when playing Mexico at the Aztec.


Exactly.

Four matches in Mexico; three at the Azteca, and one in Guadalajara (which is even higher).

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Mexico v England on 21:26 - Jul 3 with 452 viewsRadlett_blue

Mexico v England on 21:05 - Jul 3 by Zx1988

Exactly.

Four matches in Mexico; three at the Azteca, and one in Guadalajara (which is even higher).


Mexico City is 2200 metres, Guadalajara 1566 metres above sea level.

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Mexico v England on 22:20 - Jul 3 with 403 viewsZx1988

Mexico v England on 21:26 - Jul 3 by Radlett_blue

Mexico City is 2200 metres, Guadalajara 1566 metres above sea level.


Ah, my mistake. Got the 600m difference the wrong way around.

Still - three weeks and four matches at high altitude to get acclimatised.

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Mexico v England on 01:23 - Jul 4 with 357 viewsRyorry

Mexico v England on 18:41 - Jul 3 by Trequartista

I'm no expert but can't they have red blood cell pie for dinner, or alternatively bleed out some white blood cells ?


I wonder if these oxygen cans would be considered by Fifa to be performance-enhancing 'drug' systems if we used them during the hydration breaks?

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