| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go 13:03 - Jul 19 with 1732 views | unstableblue |
See below the list kicked around on a thread a month ago. Think not far off the need.
Two secured, with a primary keeper and understudy to Matusiwa seem closest links.
Still 8 players of quality in crucial positions needed, with 34 days to Sunderland and 43 days to end of window (only two games to be played before it closes).
So still some time, but need some new faces, shame that maybe another 3 or 4 are not heading to La Manga tomorrow, but plenty of friendly games to play.
How does the below look to you?
GK - XX, Walton, Van Oevelen (Palmer exit)
LB - Davis, XX
LCB - XX, Greaves (Baggot left)
RCB - OShea, Kipre
RB - XX, Furlong (Johnson and H. Clarke exit)
LCM - XX, Taylor (Humphreys exit)
RCM - Matusiwa, XX
LW - Philogene, Clarke, Mehmeti
#10 - XX, Nunez, Egeli (U21)
RW - Burns, McAteer
CF - XX, Emmerson, Hirst (Akpom exit) [Post edited 19 Jul 17:27]
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 13:04 - Jul 19 with 1684 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Hard to know for sure without being certain what formation will be but I think that looks correct.
Not sure Morita would be a Matusiwa understudy though, he mainly plays on the left hand side and is a different sort of player. If we sign him I would be amazed if he is not a starter for us. Need a RW as well. [Post edited 19 Jul 15:36]
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 13:06 - Jul 19 with 1659 views | DJR |
Should Burns not be on the list? [Post edited 19 Jul 13:08]
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| Johnson? on 13:09 - Jul 19 with 1614 views | unstableblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 13:04 - Jul 19 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Hard to know for sure without being certain what formation will be but I think that looks correct.
Not sure Morita would be a Matusiwa understudy though, he mainly plays on the left hand side and is a different sort of player. If we sign him I would be amazed if he is not a starter for us. Need a RW as well. [Post edited 19 Jul 15:36]
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Think O’Neil is 4-2-3-1 but perhaps more flexibility than McKenna.
I did suggest Johnson is going to be moved on. But imagine O’Neil could see a role for him. Albeit right attacking mid is quite stacked, especially with Leicester player interest.
Don’t think Johnson is anywhere near ahead of Furlong for RB. And Furlong not going to our starter. Although I think he can do a job.
Imagine Aluko would share with O’Neil that Johnson’s flexibility was a real asset end of Champ campaign. | |
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| UPDATED on 13:11 - Jul 19 with 1577 views | unstableblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 13:06 - Jul 19 by DJR |
Should Burns not be on the list? [Post edited 19 Jul 13:08]
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Slightly messes up the model as I think they’ll bring in a new player (XX) in that slot ahead of him and MCAteer
Where would we remove a third player in a role? [Post edited 19 Jul 13:16]
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| UPDATED on 13:22 - Jul 19 with 1490 views | StokieBlue |
| UPDATED on 13:11 - Jul 19 by unstableblue |
Slightly messes up the model as I think they’ll bring in a new player (XX) in that slot ahead of him and MCAteer
Where would we remove a third player in a role? [Post edited 19 Jul 13:16]
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Burns has signed though and thus your model needs to work with the known data.
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| UPDATED on 14:02 - Jul 19 with 1349 views | unstableblue |
| UPDATED on 13:22 - Jul 19 by StokieBlue |
Burns has signed though and thus your model needs to work with the known data.
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It’s all about the data SB.
Apologies what I meant about messing up the model was that, I think they’ll bring still plan to bring in an XX (new player) as a starter in the Right Attacking Midfield slot ahead of Burns and McAteer.
But looking below, which position now loses an existing player or a new XX to make the 25? Allowing a Fatuwa in say.
Perhaps it’s Philogene?
Still think the below is a good reflection, and things will change as we go along. 8 still feels the right amount we still need.
Big season for McAteer, started to show a more polished player towards the end of last season and his energy/pressing is Prem level. But at 24 can he hone his final product? Either shots or crosses.
GK - XX, Walton, Van Oevelen (Palmer exit)
LB - Davis, XX
LCB - XX, Greaves
RCB - OShea, Kipre
RB - XX, Furlong
LCM - XX, Taylor
RCM - Matusiwa, XX
LW - Philogene, Clarke, Mehmeti
#10 - XX, Nunez, Egeli (U21)
RW - Burns, McAteer
CF - XX, Emmerson, Hirst [Post edited 19 Jul 14:15]
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| UPDATED on 14:43 - Jul 19 with 1164 views | J2BLUE |
| UPDATED on 14:02 - Jul 19 by unstableblue |
It’s all about the data SB.
Apologies what I meant about messing up the model was that, I think they’ll bring still plan to bring in an XX (new player) as a starter in the Right Attacking Midfield slot ahead of Burns and McAteer.
But looking below, which position now loses an existing player or a new XX to make the 25? Allowing a Fatuwa in say.
Perhaps it’s Philogene?
Still think the below is a good reflection, and things will change as we go along. 8 still feels the right amount we still need.
Big season for McAteer, started to show a more polished player towards the end of last season and his energy/pressing is Prem level. But at 24 can he hone his final product? Either shots or crosses.
GK - XX, Walton, Van Oevelen (Palmer exit)
LB - Davis, XX
LCB - XX, Greaves
RCB - OShea, Kipre
RB - XX, Furlong
LCM - XX, Taylor
RCM - Matusiwa, XX
LW - Philogene, Clarke, Mehmeti
#10 - XX, Nunez, Egeli (U21)
RW - Burns, McAteer
CF - XX, Emmerson, Hirst [Post edited 19 Jul 14:15]
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I could see Philogene and Mehmeti leaving with LW and RW coming in.
As much as I really like him, I could also see Taylor leaving with another CM coming in.
Of course we could also bring in a player young enough not to count towards the 25. Guiu has been linked, although I would be very surprised if we are still looking for a young striker. Maybe one of the wide roles though. |  | | |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 15:26 - Jul 19 with 1036 views | jas0999 |
Akpom presumably going?
Almost certainly want a RW. McAteer to go out on loan? |  | | |
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 16:27 - Jul 19 with 895 views | blueoutlook |
At least 8 needed. More like 10-12 in reality. |  | | |
| Johnson? on 16:35 - Jul 19 with 878 views | football |
| Johnson? on 13:09 - Jul 19 by unstableblue |
Think O’Neil is 4-2-3-1 but perhaps more flexibility than McKenna.
I did suggest Johnson is going to be moved on. But imagine O’Neil could see a role for him. Albeit right attacking mid is quite stacked, especially with Leicester player interest.
Don’t think Johnson is anywhere near ahead of Furlong for RB. And Furlong not going to our starter. Although I think he can do a job.
Imagine Aluko would share with O’Neil that Johnson’s flexibility was a real asset end of Champ campaign. |
Do you not think that Furlong will start - thought he was excellent last season. I think there is a role for Johnson too | | | |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 17:15 - Jul 19 with 789 views | unstableblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 15:26 - Jul 19 by jas0999 |
Akpom presumably going?
Almost certainly want a RW. McAteer to go out on loan? |
Yes expecting Akpom, Johnson, H. Clarke, Baggot (gone), Humphreys, Ogbene, and Al Hamadi to depart
Will update original list
I guess there is an argument Akpom could do better at Prem level than Hirst. But Hirst is younger. And did do well in a number of Prem games. | |
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 17:22 - Jul 19 with 777 views | unstableblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 16:27 - Jul 19 by blueoutlook |
At least 8 needed. More like 10-12 in reality. |
You may have a point, but we need some continuity and 10-12 is just looking unlikely in the timeframe. 8 of quality is already a tall order.
I do think the likes of Burns, Furlong, McAteer, J. Clarke, Greaves will have a role in this season. | |
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 18:06 - Jul 19 with 684 views | JonBlue |
This seems to assume that GON will be a carbon copy of KM when it comes to formation and tactics and will view players the same.
I think Ben Johnson may well play a part. He is the player in the current squad with the most Premier League appearances, can cover both sides and would probably be the best option on the right as it stands if GON plays some games with a back 3 and wing backs, something he has done previously.
A long shot but even Akpom may benefit from a different manager and tactics.
I agree with a lot of the list but there are a few unknown variables. [Post edited 19 Jul 18:24]
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 19:18 - Jul 19 with 547 views | unstableblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 18:06 - Jul 19 by JonBlue |
This seems to assume that GON will be a carbon copy of KM when it comes to formation and tactics and will view players the same.
I think Ben Johnson may well play a part. He is the player in the current squad with the most Premier League appearances, can cover both sides and would probably be the best option on the right as it stands if GON plays some games with a back 3 and wing backs, something he has done previously.
A long shot but even Akpom may benefit from a different manager and tactics.
I agree with a lot of the list but there are a few unknown variables. [Post edited 19 Jul 18:24]
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Yeah it’s a good point; made earlier in the thread.
O’Neil will see things in players, and have greater emphasis on certain tactical and technical elements of 4-2-3-1 than McKenna.
And the likes of Johnson, Akpom, hey even Ogbene may be seen as valuable.
Johnson brings a lot of running. Akpom plays in a different way to a lot of our attacking players.
I have a feeling O’Neil will like J. Clarke, Taylor, McAteer, Davis.
Time will tell.
Wonder if O’Neil will give the front 3 a bit of freedom and the remaining players will drop deep for large portions of games. McKenna tried this but Delap, Hutchinson and Enciso often seemed to go into cul de sac and waste breaks. | |
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| Johnson? on 08:47 - Jul 20 with 375 views | unstableblue |
| Johnson? on 16:35 - Jul 19 by football |
Do you not think that Furlong will start - thought he was excellent last season. I think there is a role for Johnson too |
As has been pointed out a couple of times on the thread O’Neil is the new guy, with no doubt tactical/technical differences to McKenna, even in the same 4-2-3-1.
I personally don’t think Furlong is Premier level to be a starter, you have to have very strong full backs in this league. But I do rate him, and he’ll play a part this season. May even start the first game. And other positions are a higher priority, to get real quality in.
Johnson as also mentioned on the thread has advantages in his physicality and energy, some Prem experience, and he proved a great utility player at the end of last season. He’s never really convinced me at his time here, but he’s definitely one where O’Neil may see a role for him. | |
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| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 09:25 - Jul 20 with 310 views | surreyblue |
| Latest squad composition and 8 player NEED - 34 days to go on 17:22 - Jul 19 by unstableblue |
You may have a point, but we need some continuity and 10-12 is just looking unlikely in the timeframe. 8 of quality is already a tall order.
I do think the likes of Burns, Furlong, McAteer, J. Clarke, Greaves will have a role in this season. |
I'm in the 10-12 camp (12 inc Kipre and Akpom), with 8-9 done before the first game and another 3 done before the end of the window.
The 10 new players would be GK x2, RB, CB, CMx2, RW, CAM, STx2. Maybe also a LB.
Based on signings and what look like live rumours, we could have GK x2, CB, CM, RW, ST done over the next week or so. | | | |
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