| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. 22:25 - Sep 2 with 4346 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/wo
'The remarks come during a competitive election season in Israel in which the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and his rightwing allies have appealed to voters by calling for more aggressive measures against Palestinians.
Some have been openly inflammatory and cruel. The far-right national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, posted footage on X from a women’s prison where he said he was responsible for the dire conditions in the facility.
When one prisoner told him they were not receiving medical care, showering or receiving clean clothing, Ben-Gvir said: “The good conditions in the prisons are over. This is the current situation, and I am directly responsible for everything. I am pleased with these conditions.” ' |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 00:02 - Sep 3 with 3139 views | armchaircritic59 |
Meanwhile, the watching world and it's governments sits on it's hands, offers useless platitudes and is content to let them get away with it. Now you know why I detest politics. |  | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 08:19 - Sep 3 with 2844 views | NthQldITFC |
I read that last night and nearly posted similar, but something pathetic in me said "no, don't do it, it won't change anyone's mind and there will be all sorts of bullsh!t deflection posted in response", so I failed to act.
The fact that ethnic cleansing is considered very appealing by that country's electorate disgusts me deeply, and was the first thing that smashed me in the face in that article. It's not just the IDF, it's not just the government, it's the responsibility of the electorate (and international enablers, of course).
Poll: 82% of Israelis Want To Expel Palestinians From Gaza; 47% Want To Kill Every Man, Woman, Child - https://znetwork.org/znetartic *
The second thing was that monster Ben-Gvir celebrating the appalling conditions in a women's prison.
Disgusting. Shameful and disgusting.
Thanks for posting BDS, where I bottled it. Humanity cannot afford for people to keep looking the other way.
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:16 - Sep 3 with 2648 views | leitrimblue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 08:19 - Sep 3 by NthQldITFC |
I read that last night and nearly posted similar, but something pathetic in me said "no, don't do it, it won't change anyone's mind and there will be all sorts of bullsh!t deflection posted in response", so I failed to act.
The fact that ethnic cleansing is considered very appealing by that country's electorate disgusts me deeply, and was the first thing that smashed me in the face in that article. It's not just the IDF, it's not just the government, it's the responsibility of the electorate (and international enablers, of course).
Poll: 82% of Israelis Want To Expel Palestinians From Gaza; 47% Want To Kill Every Man, Woman, Child - https://znetwork.org/znetartic *
The second thing was that monster Ben-Gvir celebrating the appalling conditions in a women's prison.
Disgusting. Shameful and disgusting.
Thanks for posting BDS, where I bottled it. Humanity cannot afford for people to keep looking the other way.
* Overall, we rate Znetwork Left Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that consistently favor the progressive left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to the use of credible sources and a clean fact-check record.
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47% of Isreali citizens want to kill every man Woman and CHILD!
That can't be correct can it?
Is absolutely feck1n mental if true |  | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:23 - Sep 3 with 2622 views | giant_stow |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:16 - Sep 3 by leitrimblue |
47% of Isreali citizens want to kill every man Woman and CHILD!
That can't be correct can it?
Is absolutely feck1n mental if true |
Really hope not, or that there was some flaw in the Haaretz survey. Completely shocking if acurate - a whole society radicalised. |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:39 - Sep 3 with 2570 views | leitrimblue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:23 - Sep 3 by giant_stow |
Really hope not, or that there was some flaw in the Haaretz survey. Completely shocking if acurate - a whole society radicalised. |
Yep, you really have to hope there is a flaw somewhere in their survey process.
Otherwise, feck, its incredible.
How a nation goes from the excitement and potential of a new homeland to almost half the population wanting to murder every man, woman and child of the neighboring country in less then 80 years is beyond me.
Wanting every man and women murdered is bad enough. But the child bit just scares the feck outta me | | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 13:23 - Sep 3 with 2494 views | Guthrum |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 08:19 - Sep 3 by NthQldITFC |
I read that last night and nearly posted similar, but something pathetic in me said "no, don't do it, it won't change anyone's mind and there will be all sorts of bullsh!t deflection posted in response", so I failed to act.
The fact that ethnic cleansing is considered very appealing by that country's electorate disgusts me deeply, and was the first thing that smashed me in the face in that article. It's not just the IDF, it's not just the government, it's the responsibility of the electorate (and international enablers, of course).
Poll: 82% of Israelis Want To Expel Palestinians From Gaza; 47% Want To Kill Every Man, Woman, Child - https://znetwork.org/znetartic *
The second thing was that monster Ben-Gvir celebrating the appalling conditions in a women's prison.
Disgusting. Shameful and disgusting.
Thanks for posting BDS, where I bottled it. Humanity cannot afford for people to keep looking the other way.
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This is an interesting follow-up article:
https://www.genocidewatch.com/ |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 13:41 - Sep 3 with 2466 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 12:16 - Sep 3 by leitrimblue |
47% of Isreali citizens want to kill every man Woman and CHILD!
That can't be correct can it?
Is absolutely feck1n mental if true |
Where are they now, those that expressed moral indignation and rage on October 7th, pretending that those events happened in a void and banged the drums of war?
On the wrong side of history, that's where. | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 14:24 - Sep 3 with 2345 views | Swansea_Blue |
Sobering reading.
For those who’ve been paying attention, has Burnham suggested or hinted at a change of relations with Isreal, or are we still going to prop up that murderous regime? |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 14:58 - Sep 3 with 2254 views | leitrimblue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 13:41 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Where are they now, those that expressed moral indignation and rage on October 7th, pretending that those events happened in a void and banged the drums of war?
On the wrong side of history, that's where. |
Yep, clearly many were and still are standing on the wrong side of history.
The Isreali PR machine went in to full force and many fell for it unfortunately. Echoing their lies and retweeting their bullsh1te | | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:51 - Sep 3 with 2157 views | giant_stow |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 13:41 - Sep 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Where are they now, those that expressed moral indignation and rage on October 7th, pretending that those events happened in a void and banged the drums of war?
On the wrong side of history, that's where. |
Sorry to break the consensus on this thread (and potentially piss off people I like), but there was every reason to feel 'moral indignation and rage on October 7th'. It was a disgusting bloodthirsty attack and I don't see what's happened since, changes that. | |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:58 - Sep 3 with 2135 views | Blueschev |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:51 - Sep 3 by giant_stow |
Sorry to break the consensus on this thread (and potentially piss off people I like), but there was every reason to feel 'moral indignation and rage on October 7th'. It was a disgusting bloodthirsty attack and I don't see what's happened since, changes that. |
You're right of course. It's almost as though nationalism only leads to hatred and bloodshed. |  | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 16:19 - Sep 3 with 2067 views | mutters |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:51 - Sep 3 by giant_stow |
Sorry to break the consensus on this thread (and potentially piss off people I like), but there was every reason to feel 'moral indignation and rage on October 7th'. It was a disgusting bloodthirsty attack and I don't see what's happened since, changes that. |
What about all the stuff that happened before 7th October? It was a horrendous attack and most people here don't condone it, however that event was not the start of these troubles, just another event on the increasingly sad timeline |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 16:21 - Sep 3 with 2065 views | giant_stow |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 16:19 - Sep 3 by mutters |
What about all the stuff that happened before 7th October? It was a horrendous attack and most people here don't condone it, however that event was not the start of these troubles, just another event on the increasingly sad timeline |
No argument from me on that. | |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 16:37 - Sep 3 with 1996 views | Wolfshead |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:51 - Sep 3 by giant_stow |
Sorry to break the consensus on this thread (and potentially piss off people I like), but there was every reason to feel 'moral indignation and rage on October 7th'. It was a disgusting bloodthirsty attack and I don't see what's happened since, changes that. |
and all forms of abuse those hostages suffered is unimaginable |  |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:10 - Sep 6 with 1432 views | pointofblue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 16:19 - Sep 3 by mutters |
What about all the stuff that happened before 7th October? It was a horrendous attack and most people here don't condone it, however that event was not the start of these troubles, just another event on the increasingly sad timeline |
Both ways. The fight for the land which is called Israel and Palestine has existed since biblical times, hence the references in the text. And, unfortunately, the "eye for an eye" approach took root to the point where extremists on both sides do not see the other group as people, but threats who will hurt, harm and kill them if they are given the opportunity.
Until sensible heads pervade, things will not change, and the extremists in Israel currently hold more power.
Edit: To correct, the claims for the land have existed since biblical times, but not physical conflict. [Post edited 6 Sep 19:33]
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:20 - Sep 6 with 1401 views | Swansea_Blue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 15:58 - Sep 3 by Blueschev |
You're right of course. It's almost as though nationalism only leads to hatred and bloodshed. |
Not always. My missus is a Welsh Nat and hasn’t ever felt the need to resort to violence and bloodshed (unless I don’t do what I’m told, but that’s unrelated!). Quite the opposite. There are a lot of people like her who want Wales to be an opening and welcoming country. It’s just having to kowtow to Westminster they don’t like, but again wouldn’t bring violence into their argument at all.
My point, if I have one, is that nationalism doesn’t have to turn people into murderous criminals like the Israeli regime. You can’t be fiercely nationalistic yet realise what’s best for your country is collaboration, mutual benefits through friendship and the rule of law, etc. [Post edited 6 Sep 19:23]
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:20 - Sep 6 with 1402 views | Blueschev |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:10 - Sep 6 by pointofblue |
Both ways. The fight for the land which is called Israel and Palestine has existed since biblical times, hence the references in the text. And, unfortunately, the "eye for an eye" approach took root to the point where extremists on both sides do not see the other group as people, but threats who will hurt, harm and kill them if they are given the opportunity.
Until sensible heads pervade, things will not change, and the extremists in Israel currently hold more power.
Edit: To correct, the claims for the land have existed since biblical times, but not physical conflict. [Post edited 6 Sep 19:33]
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No it hasn’t, that’s a complete myth. 150 years ago there was no Israel -Palestine conflict. | | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:32 - Sep 6 with 1366 views | pointofblue |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:20 - Sep 6 by Blueschev |
No it hasn’t, that’s a complete myth. 150 years ago there was no Israel -Palestine conflict. |
Apologies - the claims, which are the root of existence for both Israel and Palestine, were born from biblical times. Conflict came out because of the Zionist movement in the late 19th century, slightly ironically due to persecution of Jewish people in Europe. | |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 01:04 - Sep 7 with 1155 views | Clapham_Junction |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 19:20 - Sep 6 by Blueschev |
No it hasn’t, that’s a complete myth. 150 years ago there was no Israel -Palestine conflict. |
There was no formal conflict, but there were massacres of the Jewish population by the Arab population prior to Zionist immigration from Europe starting.
Going back to the original post, the survey questions were (translated):
The book of Joshua tells us that when the Israelites conquered the city of Jericho, they killed all its inhabitants. Do you think this was a justified act?
Do you support or oppose the claim that the IDF, when conquering an enemy city, should act in a similar way to how the Israelites acted when they conquered Jericho under Joshua, namely, killing all its inhabitants?
The sample size was just over 1,000, which is fairly common for opinion polls.
It's been noticeable down here that quite a few prominent Israelis and Americans have been calling for Trump to recognise the Argentine claim to the Falklands to punish the UK for its opposition to Israel's actions in Gaza. |  | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 10:55 - Sep 8 with 818 views | Swansea_Blue |
I see that Ben-Gvir is now calling out government antisemitic and also that the Falklands are Argentinian under our occupation after we violently stole them from the Argentinian people.
It also looks like Miliband is about to change our relationship with Israel and announce new sanctions today. Better late than never. | |
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| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 11:02 - Sep 8 with 793 views | DJR |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 10:55 - Sep 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I see that Ben-Gvir is now calling out government antisemitic and also that the Falklands are Argentinian under our occupation after we violently stole them from the Argentinian people.
It also looks like Miliband is about to change our relationship with Israel and announce new sanctions today. Better late than never. |
And Huckerby doubling down on his claim that Miliband (a Jew) is a Jew-hater.
How can it be antisemitic to put in place sanctions that are designed to keep alive the perhaps futile chance of a two-state solution?
But then again, in recent years the definition of antisemitism has frequently been stretched way beyond its proper meaning. |  | | |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 11:02 - Sep 8 with 790 views | NthQldITFC |
| To think some of you on here supported these Israeli w@nkers. on 10:55 - Sep 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I see that Ben-Gvir is now calling out government antisemitic and also that the Falklands are Argentinian under our occupation after we violently stole them from the Argentinian people.
It also looks like Miliband is about to change our relationship with Israel and announce new sanctions today. Better late than never. |
In my humble opinion, the word antisemitic has been completely devalued by widespread abuse and manipulation, much to the detriment of good Jewish people everywhere and the human race as a whole. | |
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