| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking 13:30 - Oct 8 with 1884 views | Plums |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
It's interesting to see how much is spent on marketing per shirt - items which for top clubs basically sell themselves.
Fans don't want to pay higher prices and I assume don't want workers to live on a pittance so what's the solution?
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:42 - Oct 8 | Zx1988 |
There are a lot of problems in the system, and the clubs/brands definitely have to take a good chunk of the responsibility.
The manufacturer's cut stands out, though, particularly given the discussion about production targets.
If £16.25 goes to the manufacturer, and they target their teams to make 700 items a day, that's £11,375 a day in income for the manufacturer.
It's difficult to see how many members of staff make up a team but, at £1 an hour over an eight-hour shift, a 100-person team would only cost £800 a day, leaving £10,500 for the manufacturer. They could double the wages of the production staff, and still be left with a sizeable chunk of profit. |  |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:44 - Oct 8 | norfsufblue |
Hopefully this is a reason we have acquired Hoax with a view to producing our own apparel including team kit locally. Would be really proud of the club if thst happened as i was with the punch label. |  | | |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:45 - Oct 8 | Guthrum |
£1 an hour sounds staggering to us in the UK, but the official Cambodian minimum wage is US$210 per month, which works out at around US$7 (£5.30) per day.
However, that's only going to pay for a very basic standard of living even with lower costs in the country. |  |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:46 - Oct 8 | Zx1988 |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:44 - Oct 8 by norfsufblue |
Hopefully this is a reason we have acquired Hoax with a view to producing our own apparel including team kit locally. Would be really proud of the club if thst happened as i was with the punch label. |
I'd wager good money that the HOAX acquisition is with a view to this sort of thing. You'd probably get very long odds on the production methods being too far-removed from those discussed in the article, though.
You can bet your bottom dollar that, if we do move to HOAX, the whole thing will have been done primarily with a view to having more control over costs. | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 | RetroBlue |
If fans saw our current Town shirt on the peg, with no Halo sponsor on the front of it . No club badge, no three stars on the back of it , would you( and at many so called big clubs a damn sight more than that), pay £80 for it?
I doubt many would even pay £10 for it, because all football replica shirts are really are cheap polyester fabric and its a monumental rip of the fans by all clubs that they charge the ridiculous mounts they do. Its shocking profiteering in my view. |  |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 | Zx1988 |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:45 - Oct 8 by Guthrum |
£1 an hour sounds staggering to us in the UK, but the official Cambodian minimum wage is US$210 per month, which works out at around US$7 (£5.30) per day.
However, that's only going to pay for a very basic standard of living even with lower costs in the country. |
That's a very good point, and what generally tends to annoy me about articles like this.
The £1/hr line is presented with no context. It's clearly not enough, as evidenced by the comments by workers, but it would be useful to see a contrast between what £1/hr gets you in Cambodia, and what the minimum wage of £12.71/hr gets you in the UK.
I'd wager that the end result would be fairly similar. | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:51 - Oct 8 | Zx1988 |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 by RetroBlue |
If fans saw our current Town shirt on the peg, with no Halo sponsor on the front of it . No club badge, no three stars on the back of it , would you( and at many so called big clubs a damn sight more than that), pay £80 for it?
I doubt many would even pay £10 for it, because all football replica shirts are really are cheap polyester fabric and its a monumental rip of the fans by all clubs that they charge the ridiculous mounts they do. Its shocking profiteering in my view. |
Definitely - and the quality gets worse year-on-year.
The problem is that clubs know that it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and there'll always be enough fans who cannot not have the latest kit that the clubs will never change their approach.
One of the things that irks me most is the constant drip-feed of new apparel on an almost monthly basis. There are definitely fans out there who would be considered as vulnerable by any definition of the term, and the drip-feed of things to buy just taps into the fact that they'll gladly buy anything with a Town badge on it without so much as a second thought. | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:51 - Oct 8 | Guthrum |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 by RetroBlue |
If fans saw our current Town shirt on the peg, with no Halo sponsor on the front of it . No club badge, no three stars on the back of it , would you( and at many so called big clubs a damn sight more than that), pay £80 for it?
I doubt many would even pay £10 for it, because all football replica shirts are really are cheap polyester fabric and its a monumental rip of the fans by all clubs that they charge the ridiculous mounts they do. Its shocking profiteering in my view. |
However, like so many things, it's the branding you pay for, more than the underlying product. | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 14:21 - Oct 8 | Guthrum |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 by Zx1988 |
That's a very good point, and what generally tends to annoy me about articles like this.
The £1/hr line is presented with no context. It's clearly not enough, as evidenced by the comments by workers, but it would be useful to see a contrast between what £1/hr gets you in Cambodia, and what the minimum wage of £12.71/hr gets you in the UK.
I'd wager that the end result would be fairly similar. |
This website is not bad as a comparison between costs in different cities (I've done it for Ipswich and Phnom Penh).
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 16:09 - Oct 8 | football |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:44 - Oct 8 by norfsufblue |
Hopefully this is a reason we have acquired Hoax with a view to producing our own apparel including team kit locally. Would be really proud of the club if thst happened as i was with the punch label. |
I dont mind casual wear but I hope not kits - leave them with the proper producers like Adidas and Umbro (other brands are available). Really didn't like Core or Punch - the material was horrible | | | |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 17:07 - Oct 8 | You_Bloo_Right |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 14:21 - Oct 8 by Guthrum |
This website is not bad as a comparison between costs in different cities (I've done it for Ipswich and Phnom Penh).
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of |
Local Cheese (1 kg)
Ipswich £9.62($12.71)
Phnom Pen £11.29($14.92) +17.4 %
Well that's me out. |  |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 21:14 - Oct 8 | Leaky |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 13:48 - Oct 8 by RetroBlue |
If fans saw our current Town shirt on the peg, with no Halo sponsor on the front of it . No club badge, no three stars on the back of it , would you( and at many so called big clubs a damn sight more than that), pay £80 for it?
I doubt many would even pay £10 for it, because all football replica shirts are really are cheap polyester fabric and its a monumental rip of the fans by all clubs that they charge the ridiculous mounts they do. Its shocking profiteering in my view. |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 21:56 - Oct 8 | Guthrum |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 17:07 - Oct 8 by You_Bloo_Right |
Local Cheese (1 kg)
Ipswich £9.62($12.71)
Phnom Pen £11.29($14.92) +17.4 %
Well that's me out. |
Most eastern Asians lack the genes which permit lactose tolerance in adulthood amongst Europeans, therefore cheese is presumably not a "thing" in that part of the world. | |
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| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 22:09 - Oct 8 | WeWereZombies |
| We all know it goes on but even so, this is pretty shocking on 14:21 - Oct 8 by Guthrum |
This website is not bad as a comparison between costs in different cities (I've done it for Ipswich and Phnom Penh).
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of |
Admittedly it's been more than twenty years since I went to Cambodia but I didn't see the comparison costs for insects amongst the foodstuffs there...my point being that these websites cannot evaluate the difference in lifestyles between subsistence level Cambodian workers and the average Western European. The level of desperation was perhaps the worst I have seen anywhere.
Also, ahem, Ipswich is not a city. |  |
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